Keeping Live Bait on the hook

Discussion in 'Flathead Catfish' started by stevensk06, Aug 6, 2020.

  1. stevensk06

    stevensk06 New Member

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    Hey Everyone,

    I've been having a heck of a time with my live bait (bullheads, sunnies and bluegills) coming off the hook. Last night I had 3 rigs where either the bait got stripped off the hook or came off casting (it was dark so I couldn't see if it flung off....pretty sure it didn't though).

    I hooked the bullhead behind the dorasal fin, same with the blue gill and hooked the sunny through the nose thinking it wouldn't come off. I was using 8/0 J hooks.

    I thought maybe I got turtled, but figured either my clicker would have gone off or there would be half a chomped fish left on.

    Any tips or suggestions would be appreciated!
     
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  2. twaskom

    twaskom Administrator Staff Member Administrator Supporting Member

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    More information. How are you casting. Long distance or just a standard cast, bank or boat?
     

  3. metalman

    metalman Well-Known Member

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    Kyle,
    A small piece of rubber pushed onto the hook past the barb after you've put the bait on the hook will keep it on.
    I use 1/4" circles punched from a bicycle inner tube but a piece of stout rubber band works too.

    ...W
     
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  4. twaskom

    twaskom Administrator Staff Member Administrator Supporting Member

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    Oh and add your State to your Profile page. It will appear under your avatar.
     
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  5. stevensk06

    stevensk06 New Member

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    I would call it a "medium" cast, between 15- 30 yds from the bank. I try real hard to lob the cast as I lost lots of bluegills when I started out last summer. I've been trying out hooking them deeper into the body so they don't tear off.

    I'll try the stopper method next go around. I'm taking 2 weeks off as I've been skunked my last 3 outings and the water is super low. Time to find new bait and to do some more research.
     
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  6. stevensk06

    stevensk06 New Member

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    I'm using the tapatalk app, I don't see an option to list my state in my profile settings.
     
  7. twaskom

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    Tapatalk does not offer any options. Just go to your browser search engine and type in "Catfish1". That should get you to the actual program. In the upper right corner is a tiny avatar or silhouette. Click on it and select Personal details. That should take you to where you can make the changes. Be sure to go to the bottom of that page and click SAVE before closing.

    I find the actual program better that Tapatalk.
     
  8. stevensk06

    stevensk06 New Member

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    Ok, I think I fixed it. Thanks for the help.
     
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  9. twaskom

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    I wouldn't think with a lob type cast that you would be throwing the live bait off. Especially when using a bullhead. Might just try going during the day to see what is happening.

    good luck
     
  10. Herbhome

    Herbhome Well-Known Member

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    Welcome Kyle!
     
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  11. Flat Top

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    Kyle; Go to the "Terminal Tackle Review" section of this forum and read my post "A simple bait keeper"...works for live or cut bait.
     
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  12. Cuda

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    Kyle where are you fishing river or lake? Sounds like your fishing from the bank. I am in the North East in IOWA.
     
  13. stevensk06

    stevensk06 New Member

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    Fishing rivers. Usually either the North Raccoon or Middle Raccoon.
     
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  14. twaskom

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    I am thinking if these baits are coming off during casting, they are not getting past that barb on an 8/0 hook. Generally when you cast and lose a bait the hook has been ripped out. Using a stopper would be a good way to check on what is happening but a fishes skin is very tough, especially a bullhead's skin. I would be interested in figuring out what is happening.
     
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  15. stevensk06

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    Went out last night and tried a bait stopper on my hook. Took a plastic bass worm and cut small chunks off, put live bait on and ran the plastic worm chunk on the hook.

    Worked a lot better, still lost 2 baits. (1 was because I had my spoll tension too tight and the other was a channel cat victim).

    Ended up catching this guy, which is by far my biggest flathead. My scale was broke, but I would guess around 30?

    Spent a lot of time on the river, got skunked a lot, lost sleep, and got frustrated this last month. Appreciate all the help from this post and from this group in general. Feels good to finally land a decent one. 20200810_214132.jpg
     
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  16. Flat Top

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    Kyle; Thats a great catch!!! Good Job!!!! If you use the rubber donuts that I talk about in my thread I think you will see that they will keep bait on the hook better than the soft plastic worm material. The rubber donuts fit the hook tight and will not slip at all. When you use the rubber donuts the bait is there to stay, and the only way the bait can tear off the hook is if the bait is soft...not fresh....in that case the bait may rip, but the donut will not budge, and depending on how soft the bait is, the donut may even keep a softer bait on the hook as well.
     
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  17. twaskom

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    Nice catch Kyle.
     
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