Ordered and received KB-2 and KB-4 from Pete at Wildwolf Products. http://www.wildwolfproducts.com/katbob.htm Service was prompt and courteous. I heard Pete is a member here, but don't know his username. Anyway, first time out with them Friday 07/10/2009 with ShelbyGT1979. Shelby caught his new personal best 13# and I caught this 30#. We were using the KB-2, glow sticks, and small green sunfish and bluegills. Four flatheads total (we both caught 8#), numerous pesky channels, in about 2 hours before foul weather came our way. I must say that these bobbers work better for me than the stick type, and the visual confirmation and entertainment factor is great! ShelbyGT1979: Me and 30#: Thank you.