KastKing 60 vs Abu 6600c4

Discussion in 'Fishing Reel Review' started by Catmaxx86, Jan 30, 2018.

  1. Catmaxx86

    Catmaxx86 Member

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    Before I catch flak about how I can’t afford a nice rod/reel, because I’ve seen that type of bashing here before, my primary setup is a Basspro CatMaxx rod with an Abu 7000 iC3, not a cheap combo. [​IMG] Now we have that out of the way, this video is intriguing. I’m in the market for a secondary rod/reel to replace my ugly stick catfish rod and Walmart spinning reel. I was thinking of getting a 7’6 MH Rippin’ Lips Super Cat and a reel to accompany it. The KastKing 60 looks like a pretty good reel for the money. I only carry 2 rods because in Ohio, that’s all you’re allowed to use at one time. The average fish we catch around here is 3-10lb channels and 6-15lb flatheads with the occasional 30-40lb flatty. I’m not interested in dropping another $250 on a catfish rod.



    Any thoughts? Fire away boys.
     
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  2. Blade4130

    Blade4130 Well-Known Member

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    I am a Abu fan so I would go with Abu. However the rover will do just fine and look great on that Rippinlips rod.
     
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  3. Catmaxx86

    Catmaxx86 Member

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    I’m not reeling in 80lb blues on the Ohio River, the KastKing looks like it’s plenty enough reel to handle the average size fish I’m accustomed to seeing in this area with the occasional big boy. I just don’t want to buy a piece of junk. Nobody likes throwing $$$ away. I’ll spend the extra for he Abu if he KastKing is a piece of garbage.
     
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  4. twaskom

    twaskom Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Tony, I'm an Abu fan also and have 9 6500C3s and 3 7000s. I got all off of eBay and with a little research and after asking a few questions have not gotten a bad reel yet. Prices were just slightly above half of what a new reel was even though most look like new.

    Good luck with your decision.
     
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  5. Catmaxx86

    Catmaxx86 Member

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    I’ve considered going the used Abu route. My concern is, I don’t know how it’s been treated. The good thing about Abu’s is, replacement parts are readily available.
     
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  6. BBK

    BBK Well-Known Member

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    I have a rover 60r, seems good to me but I have not put many fish on it yet. Casts well and feels solid.
     
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  7. twaskom

    twaskom Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    You can usually tell how it was used by the pictures. I want a good clean reel. I watch out for those where it may have been used in salt water. And Abu parts are very reasonably priced although I have never had to replace a part other the I add a power handle and and add a $9 set of "Smooth Drag" disks.
     
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  8. Blade4130

    Blade4130 Well-Known Member

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    Go with what you trust and have more confidence in. The Rover is a nice reel from what I know of. However, I like and trust ABU much more.
     
  9. Fate

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    20180131_142912.jpg 20180121_191551.jpg I like the Rover 60 ALOT and IMO it really looks great on both a Rippin Lips Rods and the TWC Whisker Whip Rods.
     
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  10. jworth

    jworth Well-Known Member

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    I can’t get past the fact that they just look like rebranded Ming yang junk
     
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  11. abudoc

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    That's because they are rebranded Mings.

    A couple quick points.
    You compared the Abu 6.3 gears Kastking to 5.3 gears. If you had compared to Abu 5.3 gears, the effort required to reel in weight would have been the same. If you wanted pulling power you bought the wrong Abu, you should have bought a C3 with 5.3 gears.
    Reels are like trucks the faster they are geared to go, the less weight they can pull.

    There is a reason why very expensive reels from companies like Shimano, Daiwa, Penn etc. use ABS polymer for the cog gear on the level wind. Level winds are exposed to dirt and grit and if they hang up. You do not want a brass gear to damage an expensive worm gear, the ABS polymer gears are only a couple dollars. The I've got a fleet of 1984 Abu's still using the original gear.

    Try to find a dealer that sells parts for the Kastking.
    The Kastking is what it is, I hope you enjoy it.
     
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  12. Zigarro

    Zigarro Well-Known Member

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    I've been fishing with a Rover 60 for half a year and it's still going strong. It casts better than my Fathom 30, has a four point reel foot for better stability, and if you need parts you can contact Eposeidon and refer to the parts list included with your reel. For a working, attractive catfish rig under $100, it's hard to beat a Rover paired with a Rippin Lips M/H.
     
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  13. twaskom

    twaskom Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    We seem to do a lot of comparing of Apples to Oranges and sometimes to persimmons on here. I am sure it is only because we don't think about it enough but a 200 dollar reel should be better than a 100 dollar reel. And being able to easily get inexpensive parts should we need them is a big plus. We compare a $38, to your door, Rippin Lips rod to a $75, then add shipping, TMC to your door. But I guess all that is just natural.

    Best thing to do is to get the best you can afford, and go catch fish with it.
     
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  14. BBK

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    I agree with the guys who say the rover is not in the same class as the abu. Maybe the cheap walmart abu, which the castking beats my a mile IMO.

    I don't think the kastking is equal or beats the standard abu we all know and (most) love. I think the rover is in its own class, slightly below it.. right alongside the catmaxx. But i do think that for what a lot of catfishermen target, and how they use their reels, the kastking will achieve the same end result as the abu will. They wouldn't still be on the market and this forum would be flooded with don't buys if they were junk. Instead the only real negatives you hear are people saying "you get what you pay for, I will never leave my abu". I think for your basic catfisherman across the US, that targets cats for dinner and tangles with the occasional big fish, the kastking will do just fine. Is it the right choice for some of the guys targeting trophy blues and big flats? Probably not. But you have to realize that probably 99% of people who go catfishing are targeting a 14" channel cat for dinner, you don't need much for those.

    I hope that makes sense.
     
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  15. catfishmike32

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    I got a couple ripnlips rods setup now diawa millionair reels less than $100 setup. I use them alot year round and its great for me. And ive caught some pretty good flatheads from the bank in a snaggy area. Cheap and im happy with it. 20180201_104412.jpg
     
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  16. twaskom

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    It does make sense and well said.
     
  17. Brackish*Water

    Brackish*Water Active Member

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    Pretty interesting since I joined this site there is rods and reels I've never even heard of.
    If you like something buy it and try it. You be the judge. There's not much tackle that I don't like but a thumb bar is pretty much a deal breaker for me. I don't like them.
    That is a sweet diawa.
     
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  18. Josey1965

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    For me personally, I try to buy stuff I only have to buy once.

    I know the Abu's will last, prob longer than me. I may get out and fish 35-40 days a year these days so I am not putting anything to the hardcore test. It's just more peace of mind knowing if I take care of the gear, it will take care of me.

    Since I am not as hardcore as I used to be (don't have the time) most middle of the road gear will do me just fine. I have a few higher end pieces, but could have prob got by just fine without them.

    I don't know much about Kast King so I am reluctant to invest anything in them. It's really that simple. I know Abu's and I know Penns and I know Shimano and I have a couple Okumas. Have not found a need to venture beyond those.
     
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  19. snakedog

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    I'd buy a Kastking before I bought a Ming Yang, even though the latter is more expensive. Eposeidon, which distributes Kastkings, stocks parts and has good support from the sound of it (just got off the phone). I picked up a MY MC600 about a year ago from Custom Jigs 'n' Spins, which also distributes Rippin Lips rods, and they stock no spare parts. Having lost a cast control cap off the MC600, it's a wild goose chase looking for MY parts. I'm hoping a Kastking RXA60 cast control cap fits the MC600.
     
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  20. Dust

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    I am really on the fence about the 60L. Most reviews are good. One vid says it sucks repeatedly.

    Pimp my reel is disassembling a 40 and liking it
     
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