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Steve and i got out to the river yesterday around 5 pm to fish for some flatties. Water temp was in the lower 70s. After about a hr of no bites Steve's Shimano bait runner took off and he landed a nice 19 lb 10 oz flattie. And it was absolutely beat to death, it had a dollar piece hole from rubbing on the top of its head and mouth was bloody. I managed to land a 6 lb flattie that was the same way, well its Spawn time again guys:neutral: