Same! Shad we saw were in 35 to 45 ft and I'm assuming my net was closed by the time it got there...legally caught white bass was on the menu since that's all we could manage. Do you anchor at all in winter or still drag/drift?
I got a little flathead spooning at La Cygne Saturday. I'd guess in the 8-10lb range, nothing like the monster from earlier this year. The shad were spawning and thick. Got a few gallon bags for the freezer so I can hit the river if this warm weather holds up.