Been on since April (probably joined April Fools day), you guys immediately thought I was a Joke. LOL Don't know whether The Guy Who Whistles has it Archived, or In The Library or it is written on stone tablets brought down from the mountain, or Louderback has them in his knapsack in his sandbox in Iraq. The earliest reference to you guys starting is in Kutters Avatar. He mentions being a member since 1999. What has been the history, from inception or conception or deception to now? Perhaps you have no history or you don't want the IRS or CIA to know. Other than Paul, who were some of the pilgrims to leave the boat and step on the Rock. John.