IN Line Muzzeloaders

Discussion in 'Guns - Blackpowder' started by SSG Johnson, Sep 10, 2005.

  1. SSG Johnson

    SSG Johnson New Member

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    How do you feel about the Inline Muzzelloader. Does it defeat the purpose to have scopes and does the 209 primer make the muzzeloader a one shot rifle?
     
  2. hookeye

    hookeye New Member

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    I have 2 in lines one is scoped and one is not. I can't really say that at the distances I shoot it really matters one way or the other. I can see where the scope would have an advantage for someone with vision trouble or if you were shooting beyond say 75 yards. As for the primer, that is a good question this is the first year I will be using the 209 as my older rifle uses the #11 cap.
     

  3. SSG Johnson

    SSG Johnson New Member

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    I do use the 209 primer and my buddie uses a cap. I have never had a misfire and he does all the time I think it makes a huge differance.
     
  4. derbycitycatman

    derbycitycatman Well-Known Member

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    I shoot a cva hunterbolt magnum with 209 ignition. Just this year I decided to mount a scope. For years the only scope I used was on my 30-06, I just like open sights, I think I can see more. But as my glasses get thicker I find myself considering scopes on more of my weapons.

    As far as I feel about the inline, the inline is to sidelock as a compound is to recurve. They are both basically the same, just one is primitive compared to the other, and the other is full of goodies and gadgets to make it easier. We can always choose to challenge ourselves more.

    THe inline as a one shot rifle, hmm. I say no. A rifle is loaded with everything in one easy shell. THe smokepole is frontloading and takes a lot longer to load and more effort. I load everything but the cap before hitting the woods, so I still have to cap it.
    Also the rifle has much greater range. Although some ml's shoot well to a 100yds or more, my 30-06 is capable of 300 or more yards. Not that I can shoot that far.
     
  5. derbycitycatman

    derbycitycatman Well-Known Member

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    I stand corrected, should of thought of the rifling in the barrel myself, DOH.
    I know who im going to ask about any muzzleloader questions. LOL
     
  6. SSG Johnson

    SSG Johnson New Member

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    Thanks for the info. Wolfman that was really cool learning that about muzzelloaders they are my 2nd favorite next to my bow. I cant wait to hunt with my new one this year.
     
  7. kccats

    kccats New Member

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    I just love my Inline mussel loader.
    For one thing, when I first got it, I had to sight it in.
    I shot it 50 times that day.
    I don't think I would have the gumption to fire a regular mussel loader 50 times.
    Also, cleaning is a breeze!
    Gotta love it!
     
  8. armynavy

    armynavy New Member

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    I just purchased my first muzzelloader a Knight Disc Extreme with thumb-hole stock. What are the opinions on this ML? I will be shooting triple seven pellets would 100 grains or 150 grains be better with a 245 gr. bullet?
     
  9. VerotiK

    VerotiK New Member

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    Glad i found this thread. I bought a used CVA Stag Horn magnum from my boss about 3 weeks ago. Haven't shot it, dont know really how to load it except from what he showed me. I plan on taking it out to shoot it tomorrow maybe. From what i can tell (i have 3 speedloaders already loaded), you just dump the powder, and the slug/wad is one piece lead/plastic, drop it in, ram it down, throw a primer on, and fire. If someone might give me a little more insight, that'd be great. I have several bullets, powder, sabots, pretty much the whole kit. My main worry was figuring out how much powder to load. I have a little brass cylinder used for measuring powder, but dont really know how it works.
     
  10. VerotiK

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    BTW, the sabots i have are Hornady 50 cal high velocity sabots (black) with 45 cal 240 HP-XTP mag bulles. It says "Weight Charge (3) 50gr pyrodex pellets. I've seen the pellets at walmart. It looks like they'd be alot less hassle than the canned powder. Is there any reason to not use the pellets?
     
  11. SSG Johnson

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    Is your muzzle loader a magnum if not don't put 150 grains in it. I have shot 150 grains but to tell you the truth 90 grains shots better in my muzzle loader. You got it on the loading thats all there is to it. As for the pellets I have shot them many times and love them.

    Remember you must clean the rifle after shooting it or it will rust up really fast you must take the nipple out and clean it as well or it will corrode as well. The best way I have found is to run Hot water from your shower thought the barrel until the barrel is so hot you cant hold it anymore then run a patch through it once it cools of course and then put some bore butter in it. I'm sure some of the other guys may have a better way of cleaning but I learned that from an old timer friend of mine and I haven't ever had a problem its quick easy and gets it pretty clean without a bunch of hassle. When you site it in play with your loads as it does make a difference and make sure you have everything seated really good before you shoot. Have fun I'm sure you are going to love the muzzle loader and I have read how you love to hunt. Also be sure to look at your states Historic Weapons hunts sometimes states have spacial hunts that only muzzle loaders can hunt.
     
  12. VerotiK

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    Yeah, it is a magnum. I think i might buy some of the pellets. Seems like that would make for a more consistant load. Do you ever have any trouble with them turning sideways on the way down the barrell?
     
  13. SSG Johnson

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    No they are smaller in diameter than the barrel just make sure you buy the right cal. of pellet. You will like them just make sure you set them real good and you wont have a problem. I will warn you 150 grains has one heck of a kick to it. Be sure to check your bullet weight to see what shoots best out of your muzzle loader sometimes that makes a difference also. If you cant get it to group and the next bullet seems really hard to go in you can put a spit patch down the barrel the next time before you load to clean out some of the burnt powder. TO do this just take the jag off of your rod and put the spit patch on then rod the barrel and the next time will be easier. Remember also that if you sight it in and the barrel is not clean then you clean the barrel before the next hunt( which you should) it may shoot differently because the barrel is clean. To avoid this My Buddie will shoot to foul the barrel before he hunts. I have never done that and haven't had a problem.
     
  14. SSG Johnson

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    By the way wolf man seems to know much more than I do so I would do what he says to do other than me I have only been hunting muzzle loader for about 3 yrs. This will be my fourth so you may want to check with him. I just dint want to Steer you wrong I don't think I have but I'm sure his skills out weigh my own..... Its a blast hunting muzzle loader you should really like it next year if I'm still here you will have to come to Missouri and Hunt with us.
     
  15. armynavy

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    Thanks wolfman I will keep that in mind, everytime I get to go to the range something comes up, but I already told the wife next time its my turn. Rain or shine, hell or high water. LOL Already had the pellets but if they arent consistent I will definately go with the loose pyrodex. Thanks for the info.
     
  16. VerotiK

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    Thats alot of very helpful info! Thanks alot.
     
  17. derbycitycatman

    derbycitycatman Well-Known Member

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    I use the pellets exclusively and Ive never had any problems. I also use the 209 primers so that may have something to do with it. If your using pellets make sure you put the darker powder end in first. This is a seperate excellerant (?spelling). My ML came in a kit that had a successful muzzleloading video, great video from cva. Ive always learned easier from watching and doing it while I could still go back and watch agian, so this video was perfect for me. I would suggest a instructional video for anyone just getting into hunting.