I caught a 20" carp this morning, around 5 pounds or so. Got it with a #8 treble hook full of corn on 8 lbs. test along a rocky shore. As soon as I got it out of the water blood began to pump down its side out of its gill. The hook was in the lips inside the mouth, but looks like it may have been deeper and pulled out. It fluttered on the surface for about 5 mins. and was dead, pumping blood out the gill the whole time. Do you think I tore a vein or something ? Are carp a "fraglie" fish ? Great fight I wish it had lived to fight again; even though there are hundreds in the river. :confused2: P.S. I'm hooked on Carp fishing, way better than Bass !!!