How To Upgrade Abu Bushings To Bearings

Discussion in 'Reel Repair and Upgrades' started by Abu, Sep 24, 2005.

  1. Abu

    Abu New Member

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    I have been asked this question several times so I put up a web page with how to instructions and photos. Hope this helps and post any questions you may have. Click Here To Go To The Upgrade Page.
    Abu
     
  2. FS Driver

    FS Driver New Member

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    i like this.
    this is a great idea and a picture is worth a thousand words.
    keep it up bro .
    thanx
     

  3. derbycitycatman

    derbycitycatman Well-Known Member

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    I have never thought about that but I am now. Ive got the site bookmarked so I can check it out when Im ready.
    Ive taken all the white lil plastic brakes off to improve casting and have had no problems. Is that recommended?
    Great site and thanks again.
     
  4. BKS72

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    Thank you, that was a great link. I have an A-G 5000 that I bought on ebay that was a mess when I got it. I took it apart and got the rust out of it and it works OK, but sounds really bad when casting. Could that be the bearings you're referring to in this post that need replaced?
     
  5. Abu

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    stolib.... Yes it could be the bearings. I have a 5000 that came with a bearing on one side of the spool and a bushing on the other. Take it apart and see if the bearing is rusted and hard to turn, if the bearing is ok check the bushing for corrosion, clean the bushing and put some of your favorite oil on it while have it apart. Abu
     
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    Thank you! Drag is also loose, but I think that's cause I got a little too enthusiastic with the oil. Looks like the P/N is in the other thread, so I'm set. Thanks again,

    Branden
     
  7. MUDHOLE KID

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    Check your brake blocks also.If one has fell out and you don't know it ,it will scrub
     
  8. JERMSQUIRM

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    very informitave. i may have to look into doing this with my ambass,'s.
     
  9. H2O Mellon

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    I've always been affraid to try stuff like this, but that was a great tutotial. Thanks a lot, looks so easy that I just may try it.
     
  10. JERMSQUIRM

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    abu, where's the cheapest place to get the bearings. mellon is sending me an abu 6000 in trade for a new penn spinning reel. i would like to do this soon. my 6500 cl3's have the bearings and are smooth and cast a mile. just as well do this with my 6000 thats coming. thanks. :D
     
  11. JERMSQUIRM

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    jon i see the 800 # now. what do these run a set?
     
  12. flathunter

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    My 6000's seem to cast just as far as my 6500's, and feel just as smooth..But maybe I am mistaken?
     
  13. H2O Mellon

    H2O Mellon New Member

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    Jack it sprobally becasue we use so many diff reel so often, that none of them wear out.
     
  14. Abu

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    abu your the man that bearing house is about 1 1/2mi from my work and what a deal, ya ever use the ceramic's? the ss bearings are sheilded is that the same as sealed and would u still oil em, are the ss bearings about the same speed as the stockers, bearings that is. another ? were da ya get other parts like gears and drag washers (thinken mite try carbon) thanks again
     
  16. Abu

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    Riverbud.... The stainless steel bearings are sealed, just what the bearing companies call shielded. I use them as they are when I receive them, they are a little faster than the original Ambassadeur Abec3 bearings so I replace the bushing and the original Ambassadeur bearing on the other side of the 5000 or 6000 spool so they are a matched set. I have heard of fisherman soaking the sealed bearings in lighter fluid and blowing out all the old oil with an air compressor so they can use a faster oil with them. They work fine for me as they are, and no maintainence required. I order all my Carbontex drag washers directly from Smooth Drag, best prices and very low shipping prices. For all other Ambassadeur parts I give Pure Fishing a call and order the Ambassadeur parts. I have never used the ceramic bearings, mainly beacause of the high price, maintenance and I am not a tournament caster. Abu
     
  17. JERMSQUIRM

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    well thats not bad. will that size fit all smaller abu models??? be nice. or just the 6000. i have 6500 cl 3's 5000 5500 too. and a 6600d5. will that size fit any of these as well.
     
  18. Abu

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    Hey Jerm. The 4x10x4mm's will fit all the Ambassadeurs you mentioned. If you see part number 13472 listed in the schematic, it is a 4x10x4 Abu Garcia Abec3 bearing, you can choose any type 4x10x4mm bearings to replace the 13472. Part number 19843 is the bushing number that is also replaceable with a 4x10x4 bearing. Price and speed tells me how much I want to spend on the bearings. If I was into tournament casting I would get the fastest bearings I could find. If I wanted to fish with a nice smooth casting and retreiving levelwind reel the super fast bearings would be a waste of money. You can buy fast levelwind kits with a bearing on each side, the kits are not cheap and I would go with a fast out of the box conventional non levelwind reel before I went that far. Got a great deal on a new Penn Squidder, can't wait to test it out on an 11' rod. Couldn't afford the Penn 525 Mag or that is what I would have bought. Abu
     
  19. JERMSQUIRM

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    cool. so buying a 10 pac would take care of all my abus. i just got a 6000 i wanted to do this to and have 2 cl3 6500s and d5 a 5500 and 5000 that is real old 50's. works like any of my new ones. but getting these i would have plenty of spares at hand for any unfortunate event.
     
  20. Abu

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    The 10 pack will do the trick Jerm. One of my fishing buddies always grabs one of my red Ambassadeur 6000's with the new bearings in it. He can throw it for alot more distance than any of the other reels he uses. He couldn't believe how it casted until I finally told him about the bearings and he couldn't go to Walmart and buy one like it. :) I am going to see if the shields will come off these bearings without harm and experiment with some yellow or red rocket oil just for the fun of it. Abu