My grandpa showed me a trick about useing a #10 croshet needle from walmart. First you start by making your leader with the treble hook on one end and a loop on the other. Take the croshet needle and feed it through the liver to where the circle end is sticking out the other side. Hook the circle end to the loop and slide the chicken liver down the leader and on the treble hook. Cast away This makes the chicken liver sit in the middle on the hook instead of on the outside of the hook - produces more harder hits witch equals more fish in the boat.