The Kahle hooks are good for juglines and limblines but I don't use them very often for rod&reel cause they're too big. Also you should bend these hooks out a little like on this page Bending Kahle Hooks Juglining I use tarred nylon #150 test for my jugs. It isn't effected by the water and lasts longer than plain nylon. DON'T USE BRAIDED NYLON ON JUGS OR TROTLINES, THE MAINLINE OR THE DROPS, BECAUSE THE FISH BREAK IT A LOT EASIER FOR SOME REASON. Dropper Loop This is similar to the weights I used when jugline fishing. photo from my friend catfish on the cmb. These are made from using some kind of cup like a 32 oz styrofoam cup as a mold and concrete mix with some kind of wire for the eyes. bend the two ends of the wire or make a loop and stick the wire down in the cup and hold it up with your fingers then pour the desired amount of mix in the cup. You'll need a bag of concrete mix and a bag of concrete ... mix equal parts of the mix and the pure concrete so that it'll have more concrete powder than the normal mix alone so that it won't break down in the water. use just enough water to make it easy to manage. once they're hardened (2 days) take them out of the cup and let them cure a few days at least ... once you let them harden for about 4 or 5 days coat them with some kind of sealer you have available. thompsons works but I've found that oil based porch paint works better. It's made for sealing concrete. I've found that three hooks work best ... if you use 5 it'll get tangled pretty badly and not worth the trouble. I also use those float noodles now for the jugs ... can make 3 floats outta one noodle from the toys section in Wal-Mart and they're $1.96 each. I'll get a photo of one posted pretty quick and how to I fasten the line to them. Juglining There are also a lot of other cool things you can do with these jugs, like for night fishing you can use chem-lites taped to the tops of them but a friend of mine, Kevin Mackey, showed me a little trick to make them show up better. Take a 1 litre clear plastic pop bottle and paint it white with regular ole canned spray paint and put the chem-lite in the bottle then tape that to the top of the noodle ... you can see it over 300 yds like that and when you get a hit on the jugline it will stand up and shine like a beacon on a cold dark night .