Sadly it took me 26 years to finally get out and hunt...got my first doe though. I went up to Erie County, PA to hunt. I've seen enough TV shows to know that if you hit a deer square in the chest at ~90 deg angle that it's not going far... So, I shot my deer square in the chest at ~90 deg angle with a 250 gr. poly tip hollow point coming out of a .50 cal muzzle loader at ~1,100 fps from about 15~20 yards away.... ... ... the deer ran away.oooh: Blood trail was about 1 1/4 feet wide and went for about 50 yards... Both lungs were collapsed and the heart looked like burger... Has this ever happened to anyone else? I guess you can't believe everything you see on TV.