*Houston* I think we had a problem....Anchor

Discussion in 'LOCAL MISSOURI TALK' started by SmokinBarrel, Oct 20, 2009.

  1. SmokinBarrel

    SmokinBarrel New Member

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    I went out this past Saturday below Alton Dam with high hopes. I had bait, rods all in order, gas w/ stabil (wanted to work through gas lines), good weather, a good launch, I couldn't ask for more, right?

    Well, I tried three different spots. Ah yes, their you are big kitty, so I idle forward and throw that anchor with confidence!

    Hmmmm, the anchor keeps slipping, and it doesn't grab hold! No problem, I'll try again. So, I idle forward, and throw that anchor again with confidence!

    Hmmmm, the anchor keeps slipping, and it doesn't grab hold! So, I do it again, and again, and again! I tried both anchors, and each failed drastically! It would of made a great drifting scenario, but I wanted to anchor!

    So my thinking, my rope must have be to short? The water was up and moving fast. But, I didn't have this issue when the water was down when the dikes showed. My rope was about 75' on each anchor. Normally I use 100', but didn't have an issue with 75', as I was using a both flute style anchors. In fact, one of the flute style anchors requires 1/2 the line because of a 45 degree angle which allows for less rope used.

    Anyway, I tried this at three different locations trying to anchor in 25 - 40' of water. And no luck, so finally I gave up and pull out. I bet the two gents anchored under the dam thought I was nutz! I kept pulling up my anchor and re-throwing. :eek:oooh::smile2:
     
  2. Rollinunknown

    Rollinunknown New Member Supporting Member

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    Ill take some pics... but one day i was down at cloumbia bottms at 11pm and triped over a anchor someone home made and fell off there boat ...


    ITS THE BEST DAMN ANCHOR EVER!!!.......

    I can anchor anywhere and i mean that.It also has a release so all u do is pull the boat forward and it comes lose...:wink:
     

  3. SmokinBarrel

    SmokinBarrel New Member

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    Rob, Thanks. That would be nice to see so I can buy one or have one made.
     
  4. restorerancientiron

    restorerancientiron New Member

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    Rope to short would be my guess as well.I have had to use a 150 foot rope when we have alot of current.I was always taught to use a 7:1 ratio.For every foot of depth you use 7 feet of rope to get the maximum hold from the anchor.:crazy: Yep thats alot of rope.I have never had to use more than 5:1 ratio meaning 150 foot for a 30 foot depth.Here is a good website with anchoring details , I hope this helps.
    http://www.boatus.org/onlinecourse/reviewpages/boatusf/project/info5e.htm
     
  5. Jollymon

    Jollymon Well-Known Member

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    Dennis do you have any chain on your anchor line, if not add about 10 ft of chain it will make a big difference in how your anchor holds .
     
  6. SmokinBarrel

    SmokinBarrel New Member

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    Actually no, I don't have any chain attached. And I do have some handy, so I'll cut and add. That just maybe the ticket.
     
  7. Jollymon

    Jollymon Well-Known Member

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    Dennis i know it made a big difference with my anchor when i added more chain to it ,I have about 12ft of chain on my anchor line but i also fish the ocean inlets around here ,they have a hard sand bottom
     
  8. DWB

    DWB Member

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    Anchor chain is the ticket! It helps keep the pull angle low with lesser rope out.
     
  9. Thad

    Thad New Member

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    +1 on the anchor chain.

    Does anyone on here use a Cajun anchor in shallow water?
    Either PVC or steel?
     
  10. CountryHart

    CountryHart New Member

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    Winston posted in the library a year or so back with an anchor he built. I made one and it's a bit heavy,,,but holds. If i can find the link i'll post it. Micheal Jake (gateway cat club) has a sand anchor that i was impressed with this year on Truman. They were dumping mucho water and it holds great and don't take up much room either.
     
  11. Rollinunknown

    Rollinunknown New Member Supporting Member

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    I dont use any chain at all ... i use rope from walmart and never had a problem i can anchor when the water is high and moveing very fast...

    I think its all in the anchor.:eek:oooh: ill get some pics tomarrow.
     
  12. Rollinunknown

    Rollinunknown New Member Supporting Member

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    Were are u at in st louis ... i could swing it by and hell u can go try it out i love it!

    Its funny when i see people trying to anchor on the missouri i pull up by my self and toss it out there cause i know its gonna anchor and go sit in the back of the boat as it anchors 5 secs after hitting the botom lol... i even had an offer to sell it but there no way i could lol..
     
  13. catwhisper

    catwhisper New Member

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    i never knew about the ratio thing. but i was out one day and my 30 lb sand anchor got stuck, so i tried everything pulling forward bouncing all of it but ended up cutting it. when i got home i had a old pump base that is oval shaped hollow in the center with three 1 1/2 in. legs. i decided to give it a whurl. it ways about 30 lbs. it has been the best anchor i have ever had and hadn't hung it but a couple of times and got it back both times. it still holds beter than any anchor i've ever owned.
     
  14. Rollinunknown

    Rollinunknown New Member Supporting Member

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    geez 30lbs wow !...

    With a fast moveing current and pulling that thing off the bottom is like having a 60lb anchor lol!
     
  15. SmokinBarrel

    SmokinBarrel New Member

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    Rob,

    I live in Richmond Heights, but work near the Airport which is closer to you. I get off work on Friday's around 10 a.m. I could swing by or meet you someplace in between for a look at the anchor?
     
  16. buckdoe270

    buckdoe270 New Member

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    Rob post a picture so we can see what you have.:roll_eyes:
     
  17. Mr.T

    Mr.T Active Member

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    You can't anchor in 40 ft of flowing water with 75 ft of rope.

    I'd suggest a minimum of 150 ft of anchor rope. Skip the chain and all that other stuff. If you put out enough rope, the boat will eventually hold.
     
  18. Rollinunknown

    Rollinunknown New Member Supporting Member

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    your right i dont use 75ft of rope i use 50ft in 40ft deep.. my ANCHOR owns face.....

    My online is down along with cell phones and tv at the house soon as its up i will post pics. Tuesday .


    We got into it with ATT we are switching to charter sooo...:eek:oooh:
    Im at my brothers.
     
    Last edited: Oct 23, 2009