Herington Catfish

Discussion in 'KANSAS LAKES / RESERVOIRS TALK' started by Poarch, Sep 28, 2008.

  1. Poarch

    Poarch New Member

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    I'm lil new to kansas, havn't had the chance to catch a flathead just been catching channels.

    Did manage a five pound channel last night.

    How are ya'll making rigs when fishing for flats?
     
  2. n2fishn

    n2fishn New Member

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    Andy welcome to the BOC and to Kansas.

    I dont fish for flats much but there will be some on here to guide you along.

    Where in Kansas are you?
     

  3. arkrivercatman

    arkrivercatman New Member

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    Welxome to the BOC!
    Are you from Herington?
    For flatheads I either use a 3 way rig or a slip rig. On the slip rig I let the sinker slide all the way down to the hook(no leader). I keep it simple.
    No go catch a flathead, get an avatar, and keep on postin.:wink::smile2:
     
  4. Poarch

    Poarch New Member

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    still no luck...

    Nah i'm from North Carolina...I'm around the ft riley area

    I see pictures of all these flats I usually stay out till about two in the mournin

    Been using goldfish, Bluegill, Pumkinseed, other small fish, worms, chicken liver, i even made chum out of milo (this stuff will turn your stomach quick) and shrimp. I just keep catching channels.


    I set a bush line with 80 lb test with a lil 8 inch channel and something either broke it off or someone cut the line, not sure.
     
  5. arkrivercatman

    arkrivercatman New Member

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    The bite should start pickin up soon. I havent caught a flathead in 2 weeks and before I was catchin 5-8 a week sometimes more. I have tried differerent spots and baits so somethin is up. My rivers are just settling down from a pretty good flood, I am sure that has something to do with it. Fall is a great time to fish for all cats, but especially flatheads. They are feeding heavy for the winter. Just keep at it. Look for structure and use smaller baits (please rethink the channel cat as bait) and get as close to it as you can durin the day and a bit aways from it at night. Let us know when you get one.
    Thanks for gettin an avatar. They make a difference. We are having a gathering not too far from where you are at. You should try to make it. You will learn alot and have a great time.
     
  6. Katatonik

    Katatonik New Member

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    I live in Ogden which is just outside of Ft.Riley. Honest, throw a rock from
    the west edge of Ogden and it will land inside the military reservation. In
    what body or bodies of water are you fishing around here? If you are fishing
    in one of the lakes on post, I believe channel cats will be all you will catch.
    In the Republican, Smokey Hill or Kansas Rivers, there is a good chance to
    catch a flathead. Did you have your name and address on the limbline?
    If not, someone might have cut it. Look in the Kansas fishing regs. Two
    spots to try for flats this time of year would be at the outlets of either
    Milford or Tuttle Creek Reservoirs. Keep talking, we'd like to hook you up
    with a proper dance partner before the weather closes in on us!
     
  7. Poarch

    Poarch New Member

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    i don't know i had three right there together and the others weren't touched, i'm curious why not to use channel as bait?

    where and when are ya'll meeting up?

    I just been fishing the lakes in herington.
     
  8. arkrivercatman

    arkrivercatman New Member

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    It just seems like an oxymoron to want to catch cats, but then use them as bait. Thats all. Perch are easier to come by and work just as good. To each his own though.
    Our gathering is Oct. 24-26 at Milford Lake. We will be camping at School Creek. They are a blast.
     
  9. Catfish Fever

    Catfish Fever New Member

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    Andy, welcome to the BOC. If you're fishing Milford Lake for Flathead, I can't help you much, I have caught some, but just incidently while drifting for Blues and Channels with cutbait.
    I'm with Kyle, why would you want to use some good eating for bait:roll_eyes:, a Channelcat, when bullheads and perch are so readily available:wink:
    Are you fishing on post, the river or the lake?
    I live on the lake out by Curtis Creek park, on the West side of the lake.
     
  10. PHLIPS4BIGKATS

    PHLIPS4BIGKATS New Member

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    Andy welcome to the KS part of the BOC. You might try and head over the little apple and fish the lower blue river just east of walmart. Gus one of are KS brothers does real well on that part. He does fish from a boat though, but that doesn't mean you won't catch one there. Right off the boat ramp there are bridge pillons and plenty of brush so you have a good chance.
     
  11. Katatonik

    Katatonik New Member

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    If you look in the Kansas Dept of Wildlife and Parks site, you'll find that they
    just list generic stuff on catfish. That tells me that if there are flatheads
    in the lakes, both old and new, they are there because someone put them
    there without the state stocking them. Take a short trip north and east
    and you will find waters where flatheads have a breeding population. That
    bit of advice about the Big Blue beneath Tuttle Creek near Manhattan is
    a good one. Come to the boat ramp on Hwy 24 on the east edge of the
    city and try off the boat ramp or underneath the railroad bridge if you're
    on foot. Sunfish, goldfish or bullheads drifted under a big bobber would
    work or you could use a 3 to 5oz no roll sinker above a 3-5/0 hook in
    your favorite style to pin that bait close to the bottom for a while. You
    might find the gar irritating like I do, but there are good flatheads in that
    stretch of river. Every year they catch a few above 40lbs below Tuttle.
     
  12. brother hilljack

    brother hilljack New Member

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    Welcome to the BOC this site is full of good info and great people
     
  13. Poarch

    Poarch New Member

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    i just happen to catch a 8 inch channel while trying to catch Bream (thats what we call all sunfish in NC) So i put it in the bait bucket. Where can i find bullheads at?

    I'm fishing in the herington lake and reservoir. There small like 400 and 600 hundred acres i believe. I saw a 63 pound flat caught on trout as bait, I was pretty sure that was illegal. I would be satisfied with a 2# flat. I just want one.

    Has anyone ever used rotten milo as chum. I made some. I used a five gallon bucket filled it 3/4 of the way up with milo then about an inch water over that, put a beer in plus a cup of sugar. It's been sitting in the sun for about two and half weeks. It's started to get pretty good.
    Do you think this would scare of Flats?
     
  14. arkrivercatman

    arkrivercatman New Member

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    IMO if you are wanting a flathead you need to head to a river. They are in those small lakes but they are hard to locate. Chances are the one that was caught was put there by someone. Just go to a river and look for structure and throw some bream at them. If you are ever this way, let me know. I can probably get you a flathead, maybe even one bigger than 2 lbs.
    I would try the Smokey or Republican. I think they are fairly close to you.
     
  15. Poarch

    Poarch New Member

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    where are you located kyle?
     
  16. arkrivercatman

    arkrivercatman New Member

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    I am in Wichita. Its about an hour and a half south of where you are at.
     
  17. Katatonik

    Katatonik New Member

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    Your soured milo won't scare off flatheads, however it would draw a bunch
    of smaller channels to compete for the bait. The flathead would still be
    there, you understand, but the channel cat would grab it first most likely.
    If you make the bluegill on the hook around 5 in., the fish caught would be
    worth your while even if it did happen to be a channel cat. You would
    catch more fish if you used stink or dip baits around the milo, but they
    would probably be smaller channel cats.
     
  18. Catfish Fever

    Catfish Fever New Member

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    Andy, Andy, I don't know about you, first you use Channels for bait:roll_eyes::big_smile:, then, even WORSE, you WASTE BEER in a bucket of chum:smile2::smile2::smile2:, just joshin ya:big_smile:
     
  19. Poarch

    Poarch New Member

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    LOL...I don't drink anymore. I Donated my kidney in january to my aunt plus i'm just 20, but only for a couple more months.

    Yeah we will have to meet up out there in wichita kyle.

    Imma try to take leave 24 through 26 so i can come out there and fish with ya'll. Down in milford, but i'm not sure where that creek is ya'll are going?
     
  20. Poarch

    Poarch New Member

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    Would it be a good idea to use two poles one with bream and one with some sort of dip bait