Help please on knots

Discussion in 'Fishing Line Review' started by ohio catfisherman, Aug 22, 2007.

  1. ohio catfisherman

    ohio catfisherman New Member

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    I use 20 pound big game main line and 50 puond big game leader i need to know which knot is best to tie main line to swizel and which knot is best to tie leader to swizel i know how to snell hooks ive been using a clinch it ties ok with 20 pound but the 50 is really hard and i dont think the knot is as good so if you could help me out
     
  2. alton

    alton New Member

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    I use nothing but palomar knots. Never had one fail yet.
     

  3. SSgt Fishslayer

    SSgt Fishslayer New Member

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    i agree polomar knots for swivels and sinkers and snell knots for hooks.
     
  4. JAinSC

    JAinSC Active Member

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    First off, I don't use clinch knots at all anymore. Sometimes they are 100% and sopmetimes they aren't.

    For tieing the 20 lb to the swivel I would deffinately use a Palomar. They are easy to tie and are virtually always 100%.

    Tieing the heavier leader material to the swivel is a little tougher, since it is harder to get a 100% knot in line that heavy, but that's really not that big a deal, because even if you get a 50% knot, it's till going to be stronger than the 20 pound breaking strength of the mainline. I use a Uni-Knot to connect heavy line to leaders and - as you mentioned - I snell my hooks.

    One thing you might want to watch for - I got a couple of batches of hooks where the wire iside the eye was a little sharp right at the end of the wire (from wher ethe machine grabbed the tip of the wire). This little sharp spot was cutting the line from the snell where it passed through the eye of the hook. I lost a couple of god fish at the boat because of this.
     
  5. SSgt Fishslayer

    SSgt Fishslayer New Member

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    yeah that is a problem i have encountered before, but a good jewlers file will take care of that pretty quick. i usually sneel all of my hooks to leaders before i even head out. that way if i have a problem with a leader or a hook, i am not trying to snell in the dark, i just replace the whole leader. makes it much easier when the bit is on and it pitch black out.
     
  6. Arkansascatman777

    Arkansascatman777 New Member

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    I used the cinch knot for years and switched to the palomar and like it a lot better. I also use 50 lb. for my leaders and the palomar works great. If you are using hooks with up turned eyes then you will need to snell them.
     
  7. StormCaster

    StormCaster New Member

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    The polomar knot or you could tie direct with the albright knot without the swivel.
     
  8. TeamWhiskers

    TeamWhiskers New Member

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    palomar knot for everything including the turned up eyes on the hooks.
     
  9. KG_CHawkX2

    KG_CHawkX2 New Member

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    I agree, palomar knots for me have been pretty fail safe, i use it on almost everything
     
  10. DemolitionMan

    DemolitionMan New Member

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    I use a palomar for swivels and straight eyed hooks....I snell the turned hook eyes with the uni-knot system....I tie my leaders to my hooks at home and have them ready to go....When I attach a leader to the swivel, I use a uni-knot...The thing to check about the knots is that some knots work great with small dia line, but won't work good with large dia. line...That's why I use the palomar/uni-knot system.....Dwight