Hellgramite Season

Discussion in 'Catfishing Baits' started by flathead willie, May 17, 2006.

  1. flathead willie

    flathead willie Well-Known Member

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    Do any of my BOC brothers use Hellgramites? They are plentiful right now and are great Channel cat bait.
     
  2. ohiocattracker

    ohiocattracker New Member

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    I have and do for channels but i have not this year yet.
     

  3. treddinwater

    treddinwater Active Member

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    They make great channel cat bait and even better smallmouth bait.
     
  4. FishMan

    FishMan New Member

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    I don't even know what that is. LOL, there's lots I don't know.
     
  5. flathead willie

    flathead willie Well-Known Member

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    They are the larvea of the Dobson fly,about 2 1/2 inches long...those big black things about 3 inches long that land on the screen door late in the summer, with huge pinchers. This time of year they are in the water and look like leathery centipeds with thick strong pinchers. They are under rocks until mid to late June when they come up on the banks and get under rocks there until their wings grow.
    You can get a 4' sein net, put tomato stakes on the ends so you can hold them down into the bottom of knee deep fast moving water. Have someone 10-12 feet upstream kick and turn over rocks and the Hellgramites, Crawdads, Madtoms, etc.will wash into the net. They are supper tuff and will stay on the hook sometimes for 3-4 fish. Once they are taken out of the water, they start breathing air and will drown if you put them back into water. Keep them in a container of grass or leaves. They will stay alive for a long time, sometimes weeks. They also put off a strong oder that attracts all kinds of fish. Hook them under the hard collar behind the head.
     
  6. ohiocattracker

    ohiocattracker New Member

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    Billie i havent heard anyone talk about madtoms in years good bait.Down home we use to get chups and toms and we where set for a night of fishing.Up here where i live now i have never heard anyone say they use them.
     
  7. flathead willie

    flathead willie Well-Known Member

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    Yea, Hellgramites and Madtoms are great bait. I've been useing them for years. I have a friend from Laos who eats Madtoms. His wife, Boontom, takes a whole mess of them and puts them, whole, into a pot of soup. It takes some getting used to eating soup that stares back at you and has guts floating around in it! To them it's good eating. I guess if you get hungry enough, you'll eat anything that doesn't eat you first. It's good to be an American! God bless America!!!
     
  8. Scott Daw

    Scott Daw New Member

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    growing up along the perkiomen creek I used to use them for trout bait. man did they go nuts for it. but since i moved to allentown, I cant find them in the little lehigh creek. i havent fished to jordan creek yet but hear their in the lehigh river.
     
  9. treddinwater

    treddinwater Active Member

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    Flathead willie's right about them being tough, all you need is about a dozen and they will last you a day basically. My dad caught 7 straight fish on the same helgramite one time.
     
  10. Brushy Bill Roberts

    Brushy Bill Roberts New Member

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    Those things are like carmel popcorn to smallmouth too!

    Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing that it was not fish they were after.
    Henry David Thoreau
     
  11. katmandue

    katmandue New Member

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    I've used A helgramite for fishing once. Never tried it again 'cause those pinchers were quite intimidating and I have an affinity to my fingers.:roll_eyes:
     
  12. flathead willie

    flathead willie Well-Known Member

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    Yea, you got to be careful. Those pinchers are NOT for decoration! I like to fish them on a small jig head especially while drifting. Most of the time they barely get to the bottom before something hits them.
     
  13. flathead willie

    flathead willie Well-Known Member

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    Brushy Bill,
    I love your quote. It reminds me of what my father used to say. " Some men spend their whole lives trying to get to the top of the ladder....only to find that it's leaning on the wrong wall."
     
  14. delawareriver

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    let me tell you if you wanna catch fish use them! i never had them fail me once! last year i had a dozen and i caught like 18 cats and i only had one left and i caught another 23 cats on it! i just kept getting the skin of the hellgramite back on the hook and they cats kept hitting! there was another boat using chicken livers that fished longer than me and only caught 5 or 6 fish. last sunday i had 12 smallmouth in high water with them so i couldnt complain about that. if you ever find a white one use those also they work just as well but only last one fish.

    last year when i kept catching the fish on that one hellgramite so i figured it was the smell that the fish wanted. and ive used fake ones that never really produced well so i now put about two dozen fake plastic ones in the jar with the real ones and they also produce for a few fish till the scent comes off.

    i use a wet cloth like a potatoe bag kind of cloth and keep it damp with some ventalation and all the hellgramites stay alive till they change to the dobson fly. hey scott anglers paradise in whitehall now carries them in the store but they will set you back 13 bucks a dozen. right now its easy to find them tho it took me about 25 mins to find a dozen and i caught a few more while i was fishing from the bank so theres no need to spend that money but in june and july when they get harder i might be worth it.

    ive made alot of men look dumb when they were fishing because they had artficials and i had hellgramites. last year theres a spot where a few guys wade out in the river to catch some smallmouth and they only caught a few all day and on my first cast i caught a 3# then i had 4 or 5 1-2# in a row. ended up with over 20 smallmouth to the 2 i saw them land.
     
  15. Scott Daw

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  16. flathead willie

    flathead willie Well-Known Member

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    Hey guys, Right now they are in the larvea stage. Get your self a 4' sein net,(sinkers on the bottom, floats or plain on top) put a tomato stake on each end then get in some knee deep water, hold the stakes down to the bottom while your buddy turns over rocks and kicks up a fuss up stream. The Hellgramites will be washed out from under the rocks and into the net. Holes in the net should be as small as possable. (1/4 inch)
     
  17. flathead willie

    flathead willie Well-Known Member

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    Boys, down here in Virginia they are about $2.00 a dozen. look for them in faster moving water.
     
  18. flathead willie

    flathead willie Well-Known Member

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    i'll try to post a picture. if it doesn't just type in Hellgramite to your search engine and learn all about them. hellgrammite_tom.jpg
     
  19. Catgirl

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    Billie, do you have a picture of a Dobson fly? Hellgrammites are great bait, but that Dobson fly is the real show-stopper. I bet some people have never seen one. The first one I ever saw we caught in a styrofoam cup while at the flea market. By the time we got home he had stuck those pinchers through the styrofoam trying to escape! My sister donated him to the local children's science museum. They were very happy to get him.
     
  20. Scott Daw

    Scott Daw New Member

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    they are some ugly critters