After much deliberation over three pawnshop reels, as Penn 209, Tidewater 20 L, and a Abu 6500 c3, went for broke and bought a new 6500c3. Decided that I didn't want to fool with another man's troubles if the used reel had problems, didn't know who had it before me. I'm going to put it on my rod before I go to bed and hopefully fish it Sunday or Tuesday. The salesman at Academy put 20 lb Big Game on it, the clear, not my first choice, prefer the Solar Green as I can see it better when drift fishing, but the line was free. Told me that Academy has asked them not to put Big Game on new reels bought there, but as I buy most of my tackle there and talk to him about how he used to sell ladies shoes, also listen to his fishing stories, he'd put it on for me. It came down to the Penn just being too big of a reel for fishing from my kayak. I'm also familiar with the Abu's, having a 5600c4, with clicker too. The reel felt right in my hands, only a bit wider than my 5600. For now, its going on the Bass Pro Extreme IM 8 medium heavy rod I have my 6600d5 on, that one is going on a n American Rodsmith rod that has a lighter action. The 6600 d5 will be better on that rod. The next step is to get a heavier duty rod for the 6500. I like the Ugly Stick Tigers, but the rod but is a bit large for my kayak rodholders. Also looking at a 7 ft Allstar Gulfstream, it comes in several weight/line classes. After I'm used to it, the next time I change line, will move to braided. As for the 209 or the 320, both are on my list to get, want one or the other for gar fishing.