Caught two of these fellows today using live bream. The one in the pic was 32 inches and about 13 pounds, 2nd one was 29 inches and 11 pounds. Thats a 3 foot ruler in the photo. I took them to shore before taking pics, did NOT want them flopping around in my lap in the Kayak. They did tow me around the lake for a while, fun, fun !!! They are both back in the lake waiting for me on another day ..