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Cant get any better than Ming Yang try bhtackle.com or stingraytackle.com, they are about the same as Abu Garcia. Most models are slightly bigger than abu, which is great because you get more line capacity. The Abu's are a little smoother and the clicker is louder but the ming is 1/3 of the price. Great reels, I love the CL60s and CL70s
 

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Thanks! I checked out the reels and the reviews along with yours and I was so convinced that I went ahead and bought the cl60!
congrats you wont be dissappointed, throw some braid or mon on their and she's set. Also in reference to your rod's the Cabela's King Kat is a nice rod also. I dont personally own any but 2 of my buddies have 30+ between the two and we have reeled in fish up to 70LBs plus on them and never had one fail. 8' MH $24.99 from Cabela's
 

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I had been looking at the Okuma's and Shakespeare Arsenals but those Ming Yang CL70 baitcasters sure do look nice. I wonder if there is a way to make the clicker louder? That is the main reason I have steered away from Okuma, the clicker is just too quiet, but Shakespeare and Abu both have a nice loud clicker.

How loud is a Ming Yang clicker compared to the Shakespeare and Abu? I hate to buy a reel blind but have seen good reviews on them and they are tons cheaper than Abu and comparable to Shakespeare.
 

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I had been looking at the Okuma's and Shakespeare Arsenals but those Ming Yang CL70 baitcasters sure do look nice. I wonder if there is a way to make the clicker louder? That is the main reason I have steered away from Okuma, the clicker is just too quiet, but Shakespeare and Abu both have a nice loud clicker.

How loud is a Ming Yang clicker compared to the Shakespeare and Abu? I hate to buy a reel blind but have seen good reviews on them and they are tons cheaper than Abu and comparable to Shakespeare.

I have 2 Okuma 450Ls and had 2 Shakespere Aresenals, if you can next time go with the Arsenal HDs, little more stout and more bling for $5-10 more. In reference to the clickers, the TWC version that Jeremy sold had the loud clicker and it was louder than the Okuma and Arsenal, supposedly all the new CL60s & CL70s from stingray have the loud clicker due to the complaints
 

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Thanks for the info Ramon, I'm either going with the Arsenal HD or the Ming Yang CL70 on my next couple of rods, going to pick up a couple 10 foot American Spirit Nite Stik Pro rods and think those reels would be a decently priced match.
 

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Thanks for the info Ramon, I'm either going with the Arsenal HD or the Ming Yang CL70 on my next couple of rods, going to pick up a couple 10 foot American Spirit Nite Stik Pro rods and think those reels would be a decently priced match.
those would match perfect. It would be hard to match up anything with the HD and CL70 without spending twice the money. My next option would be the Penn 320GT2, which is better than both but they're $90 each ouch, I have 2 of them. If you are really good casting baitcasters the 209 and 309 at $54 are very stout reels but they arent very forgiving if you havent mastered casting.
 
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