I have been using 8 ought versions of these on my fiberglass limb lines. They work very well. I really like the small diameter hook for not killing a hand sized perch. It seems like they will live for a week on there. But I had one straightened the other day and that is a sickening feeling. I shove these 1/2" fiberglass poles in standing dead trees at a slight upward angle. The pole has a lot of give but this fish got around a small tree that I hadnt noticed and bypassed the flex of the pole. My question is: Are there any hooks that are similar in shank diameter yet stronger? I have used lots of different types of hooks and like these the best so far. I wish Gamakatsu made a little bigger hook of this type like maybe a 10 or 11. Thanks for your help and good luck.