Okay, while at the Pay Pond w/ Flathunter on Sat night (SEE POST: http://www.catfish1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21120) I got him VERY GOOD. Nothing but turtles were biting. Jack had to go "take care of business" and since it was daylight he had to go to a discrete spot. While he was gone, I told my wife "Watch This". I grabbed a blakc rope that was beside me, tied it to his rod holder & waited for the time to get right. By the time he got back it was almost dark. I waited another 30 minutes or so and started tugging on the rope. The rod holders are so heavy that I could not get the rod to actually look like a monster Cat bite, but it did look like a VERY AGRRESSIVE TURTLE BITE. I gave some light tugs, then some heavier tugs. Jack even got up a time or two & reeled in the rod to check his bait. An hour or so went by, then his wife came down on her way home from work. While he was talking to her I noticed that he was only 1/2 paying attention to his rod, so I started jerking the crap out of this rope. Man, his rod was bouncing like crazy. He was getting excited because I guess he thought he had the worlds largest Snapper on. This went on for 10 minutes or so, I was jerking so hard that the rope was leaving red marks on my hand. Finally my wife & I started cracking up & clued Flathunter into was what going on. Below is a pic of what it looked like when I 1st tied the rope to the rod holder.