Frozen Bait Question/Idea

Discussion in 'Catfishing Baits' started by laidbck111, Oct 26, 2006.

  1. laidbck111

    laidbck111 New Member

    I have read a couple of threads about freezing bait and the effects of freezing it. I was curious to know if anyone had ever tried cutting and putting a hook in the cut bait before they had froze it? It seems to me that the frozen bait would not fling off the hook when casting and would defrost shortly after being in the water. I would like to hear your thoughts on this. I have done it with chicken liver and it worked out pretty good for me.
     
  2. MR SANDMAN 800

    MR SANDMAN 800 New Member

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    I've tried frozen bait before and it's tough to get the hook through frozen bait, especially cut gills. Having a hook in the bait before freezing sounds like something to try...u think freezing the hook in the bait affects the hook itself at all? I just put my ziplock bag of frozen bait in the water for a little bit and it thaws out, then I'm ready to fish. Good luck, let us know the results if you try it.
     

  3. laidbck111

    laidbck111 New Member

    I don't think it would do anything to the hook. The only thing is that I used a snap swivel with the liver so I would not have to keep tying on new bait chunks.
     
  4. zappaf19

    zappaf19 New Member

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    I freeze livers and shrimp on the hooks. It works pretty well for me. Just open the container and hook the hook to my line. No fuss no muss. ( I keep my shrimp in with my livers)
    Bill
     
  5. flatheadhunterx

    flatheadhunterx Active Member

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    sounds like a good idea but wouldnt you lose alot of blood that way? when thawing froze bait i thaw mine out on ice
     
  6. SkiMax

    SkiMax New Member

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    Would u change hooked after every new piece of bait? I like to keep fresh bait on and it seems like I would constantly be tieing new hooks on. It could work though. I just deal with the cold and throw my net. It makes me feel good to catch shad in the winter because i can actually keep them alive in a bucket. :big_smile:
     
  7. laidbck111

    laidbck111 New Member

    As the bait defrost in the water your slick/blood will start also. Well that is how liver does anyway.
     
  8. laidbck111

    laidbck111 New Member

    If you were opposed to a snap swivel yes. Are you can use a barrel swivel and a cat's claw knot then it would just be changing the snelled hooks out as needed.
     
  9. tnkatman

    tnkatman New Member

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    Did You Use The Snap Swivel? Or Is This Just An Idea? It Sounds Like A Good Idea And Probably Worth A Try.
     
  10. laidbck111

    laidbck111 New Member

    With liver I just used the snap swivel. But I was thinking about the bigger fish, blues and flatheads, and the power they have and thought about it for awhile and came up with the untested idea of the barrel swivel and the cat's paw knot. I have used this surf and wreck fishing and it is a strong knot. My thought was to rig your line as normal to the barrel swivel and then attach your snelled hook to the swivel using a cat's paw knot. Then it's just unwinding the knot to change baits and replcing it with the next piece.
     
  11. metalman

    metalman Well-Known Member

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    This method works great for any soft bait. I started doing it many years ago using soft baits like meat flavored jello for carp fishing.
    Also, there is another benefit when using this method with liver.
    I read an article once by a food chemist/fisherman who stated that liver is a much better bait after it has been frozen than it is fresh. Apparently some kind of enzyme/amino acid/chemical in it that catfish find attractive is released or made more potent by the freezing process...W
     
  12. catman529

    catman529 New Member

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    sounds like an idea now - i would use a snap swivel for changing hooks
     
  13. catfisher43

    catfisher43 New Member

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    Thats a good idea.will have to give it a try.thx for the info.
     
  14. plainsman

    plainsman New Member Supporting Member

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    excellent idea, why didn't i think of that. well, i guess thats obvious. but i usually use 20-30 lb leaders with snap swivels on them, so changin hooks is easy, just need to have a supply of hooks froze into the bait. thanks for the info
     
  15. yeppa

    yeppa New Member

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    OK Benji--I'll bite, what's a "cat's Paw" knot. Sounds like I need to learn another knot. That'll make 4 (counting my shoestrings.
     
  16. tofish

    tofish New Member

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    i'll bite next. what's a catspaw knot? got a picture? i know less than four knots myself.
    gary
     
  17. Ulikedew

    Ulikedew New Member

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    Got me in knots also.I'll take the bait this a new one on me also.
     
  18. brinley45cal

    brinley45cal Active Member

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    here is an idea lay it out before hand to thaw out lol.Seriously what i do say with bluegill heads after they thaw and i go to use them is i stuff there mouth with a blood bait or dough bait or something like that to give them a better smell since frozen isnt quait as good as fresh.and it draws the fish to the bait faster.
     
  19. Phil Washburn

    Phil Washburn New Member

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    ok, i am going to marry this thought, which i have used before(thanks, Benji) with this one from the BOC library:
    http://www.catfish1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38805


    i will put bait on hooks in ice trays and make "bait cubes"...i think it should work.

    Northstar used a blender to liquefy his chum, but i use a meat grinder mounted on my cleaning table. either should be adequate.
     
  20. Phil Washburn

    Phil Washburn New Member

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    here is the cats paw knot:big_smile:


    never mind..the link didn't come thru...just do a yahoo or google search for cats paw knot