For all of you Squids and Jarheads

Discussion in 'General Conversation' started by ryang, Dec 18, 2006.

  1. ryang

    ryang Well-Known Member

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  2. splitshot

    splitshot New Member

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    Thanks Gary, when i get the time i would like to spend some time checking this site out.
     

  3. fish

    fish Active Member

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    Thanks Gary, I joined the site, maybe I can locate some of my old shipmates.
     
  4. ryang

    ryang Well-Known Member

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    It is free to join also, I didnt see if there were any Groundpounders (Army) :big_smile: or Flyboys (Airforce) :big_smile: . I think its just Navy but I dont think they will prevent you from joining.
     
  5. oldprowler

    oldprowler New Member

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    I too joined that site, it seems pretty well organized. Pretty hard to get around on though. Will have to see if it lasts.
     
  6. squirtspop

    squirtspop New Member

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    I joined and looked. Didn't find any names of guys I remember but still remember a few. I was in the personnel office so there was lots of names there. Maybe a few more will flash into the memory.
     
  7. ryang

    ryang Well-Known Member

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    For those that have joined early on there is now over 150000 members onboard. Ive talked to a bunch of guys I used to serve with. Great stories and lots of great information.
     
  8. ryang

    ryang Well-Known Member

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    my userid on there is gryan1966 if any of you want to look me up there.
     
  9. ryang

    ryang Well-Known Member

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    Bumping up as there are now over 175000 members on there. Come on I know there are more Squids out there. There is a Marine one also for you Jarhead I know you guys want to grunt at each other.:lol::lol::lol:
     
  10. daddio

    daddio New Member

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    I work at the railroad and there are a lot of shell backs that I work with I will pass the info on thanks
     
  11. ryang

    ryang Well-Known Member

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    Bumping there are now over 200K members, not all are active but you may be able to get ahold of someone you once knew
     
  12. fish

    fish Active Member

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    Gary, or any swabbies, do you know what the designation of the patch in the picture below is? A friend asked me and I don't know what it is.
     

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  13. ryang

    ryang Well-Known Member

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    Jim what year was that I tried looking for ratings but cannot find anything close to that.
     
  14. fish

    fish Active Member

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    Sorry Gary, that patch was made back during WWII, so my friend says. I have never seen that rate symbol before. I believe he said it was smaller than the standard patches so he thinks it could be a WAVE patch??? My friend collects different military patches and he said he came up empty on that one. I appreciate you looking to see if you could identify it buddy.
     
  15. ryang

    ryang Well-Known Member

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    Fish this what I have found out about that rating badge.

    Apprentice Boys

    Apprentice boys were introduced during the period 1875-1880 and lasted only a short time until 1904. For a number of years, however, the apprentice system formed a major part of the Navy's training program for enlisted men. Its purpose was to attract high caliber youngsters into the Navy and give them instructions in seamanship, gunnery and the rudiments of a general education.

    Apprentices entered the Navy between the ages of 14 and 18 and served until their 21st birthday. Unlike other applicants of that time they could not be enlisted at recruiting stations. Instead, they reported to one of the Navy's receiving ships at Boston, New York, Philadelphia or Mare Island. After 1883 they could also enlist at the training station at Newport. It was preferred that their parents or guardian accompany them when they applied.

    Apprentices were examined by a board consisting of the commanding officer, one other line officer and a medical officer. By regulations of the time, the board could qualify some very small lads at the age of 14 years. However, for the 14 year olds, 4 foot nine and 70 pounds were the minimum height and weight, while for the 16 year olds the figures were 5 foot one and 90 pounds. Applicants had to be able to read and write, or in special cases where the boy showed general intelligence and was otherwise qualified he could be enlisted notwithstanding that his reading and writing were imperfect. Their character had to be well above average and upon being accepted they became Apprentice Third Class. Pay was $9.00 per month. Within one month after enlisting, the apprentice was transferred to the naval station at Newport. There he received instruction in reading, writing, arithmetic and the basic subjects of the seaman's profession. This period of shoreside training lasted six months. Next came a period aboard a cruiser training ship. Cruiser training ships formed a regular squadron. In 1897, for example, the apprentice training squadron was formed on Essex, Adams and Alliance. Bark-rigged and wooden hulled, they were 185 feet long and displaced 1,375 tons. The permanent ship's company of these vessels were mature Navymen especially adapted for that particular service, as regards to character, intelligence and professional qualifications.

    Apprentices were stationed in one part of the ship for three months, as royal yardmen at the maintop, for example. Only in case of necessity were they detailed for duty as messmen. Cruiser training ships made a summer cruise and a winter cruise. After making both cruises the apprentices were transferred to a cruising ship of war. At this time they were advanced to Apprentice Second Class. Pay was then $10.00 per month. Aboard the cruising ship their duties continued to include considerable training. After one year's service, they were advanced to Apprentice First Class, monthly pay of $11.00.

    Apprentices First Class had a grade equal to that of Seaman Second Class, or Ordinary Seaman; and an Apprentice Third Class was equal to that of Seaman Third Class, or Landsman. As a group these were the "Apprentice Boys" (there was also a rating of Boy in the Navy in 1797).

    In view of the difficult entrance requirements, the low pay, and the varied duty they were subjected to, the question often was asked why would a youngster want to become an apprentice. One of the reasons was that they received a good education for the time, and at the same time received systematic instruction in seamanship.

    The apprentice training system in the Navy ended in December 1904 when it became merged with the landsman training system of that time. The main emphasis shifted to basic training ashore, with a three months' course of instruction at one of the Navy's three training stations. These were Newport, Norfolk, and San Francisco. The last Apprentice Boy payed off was Harry Morris, TMC who served from 1903 to 1958. Chief Morris, like the other ex-apprentices, wore a figure eight knot insignia on his uniform.
     
  16. fish

    fish Active Member

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    Wow Gary, that is really interestin. I really do appreciate you going to all the trouble to find that information for me. How in the world did you ever find it? Thanks again buddy!
     
  17. ryang

    ryang Well-Known Member

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    I posted a question on the Together we Served board with the picture you gave, a lot of good information.
     
  18. fish

    fish Active Member

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    I didn't think about that and I am a member. Thanks again Gary.
     
  19. Flatheadhunter33

    Flatheadhunter33 New Member

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    The net here on the Essex is SUPER SLOW right now...I will try to check it out later. I was lucky to get on here today...:roll_eyes:.
     
  20. ryang

    ryang Well-Known Member

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    There are about 250,000 profiles now if you havnt joined up yet. I think that you get a week free after that it does charge but others can see your profile and email you