Flatheads on jugs pic

Discussion in 'Alternative Methods of Catching Catfish' started by kevinmays, Jun 16, 2008.

  1. kevinmays

    kevinmays New Member

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    New poster here but i wanted to jump in. you guys have a great forum with lots of info. these fish are all released except fopr the smaller ones. we keep just enough to eat.

    I have been on them the last few trips. My jugs are like most i see here. mine are alot bigger though. i catch alot 40-50 lbers and every once in awhile catch a huge 60-80 lber. here are some pics from my last couple of trips


    here are some links to my photobucket catfish pics check em out

    http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...n200842lbs.jpg


    http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...200842lbs2.jpg

    http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...sand18lbs1.jpg

    http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...bsand23lbs.jpg

    http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...hirdnight4.jpg

    http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...hirdnight1.jpg

    http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...5lband15lb.jpg

    http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k3...condnight1.jpg
     
  2. John6518

    John6518 New Member

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    Kevin--Great pictures--great kids (don't let one of those flatheads eat a child!).

    John
     

  3. kevinmays

    kevinmays New Member

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    guys what do you figure the one in the top pic weighs. i weighed him on my buddies scales and we argued at the time as they were a piece of crap.

    i am 6'5 and 300 lbs. my younger son weighs 100 lbs and the older is 170lbs.

    several fisherman have guessed him at 60plus. i dont know but he was big. the fish was 59 inches long and full of eggs.
     
  4. CJ21

    CJ21 New Member

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    Those are some nice, Flathead.
     
  5. massa_jorge

    massa_jorge New Member

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    good flatties there! welcome to the board kevin. i'd like to hear about bait and all that!
     
  6. Larry

    Larry New Member

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    Get a length and girth and that makes it a lot easier to come close to the wieght.
    59 inches with a 31 inch girth and I'm being conservative if it was full of spawn was a 60+fish at a minimum. she might have gone up to 70-80lbs.

    Have you ever considered CPR on the really big ones? They are the best gene stock and egg producers. Not telling one what to do.

    Massive fish tip of the hat.
     
  7. JERMSQUIRM

    JERMSQUIRM New Member

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    just a heads up.
    read the first line. said he released all but smaller ones.

    and may i say larry. you have asked that Q in the nicest way ive seen on here in a long time.

    most say some smart remark like try rod and reel its more sportman like. that pi$$2s me off. you sir i will rep for just being considerate.:wink:

    nice fish pics kevin. some real nice flathead there.
     
  8. catman4926

    catman4926 New Member

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    Nice pic's and a nice looking pair of young men
     
  9. kevinmays

    kevinmays New Member

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    just got in from jugging tonight

    caught 8 fish that totaled 120 lbs in 3 hrs. they were all released

    6 flatheads
    2 blues

    no whoppers (all were right at 15-20 lb range0so i didnt picture but i set 30 jugs and have 22 left out for the morning


    rod and reel is fun but i caught a 92 flathead and a 84 lb blue in one summer a few yrs ago and now i am trying to catch a fish of that calibur on a jug.just a different game.


    i did as you see in the pic but i am doing this for my boys 9 and 7.

    they go with me every set up. we catch the bait together and they love runnin the jugs. they fight over ever flagger.

    thx for the compliments. a commercial fisherman told me tonight that fish was definitely in the 60-80 lb range in the top pic. we didnt go get our other scales as we wanted her back in the water quick.
     
  10. Larry

    Larry New Member

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    I did miss read it... Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
    I'll say it again... Heck of a fish Mate...Tip of the hat to the catch and a second for practicing CPR and a third for sharing some awesome pics of you and your fishing mates.... Those are some memorys for ever.:wink:
    I have a length and girth chart, It's been (surprisingly) accurate up to around 45lbs.... but it doesn't go as high as what you caught so mine are only best guesstimates.
    thanks for the complement Cats4you and me.
     
  11. brother hilljack

    brother hilljack New Member

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    Looks like some great fish. Great job and thanks for sharing. Welcome to the boc
     
  12. jtrew

    jtrew New Member

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    Welcome to the BOC, Kevin! I'd really like to hear more about your techniques for catching those big flatties. And maybe a picture or two of your jugs.
     
  13. kevinmays

    kevinmays New Member

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    jtrew,

    i fish exclusively with bream or blue gill caught by rod and reel.
    i never drop my jugs for flatheads on the main channel or on long flats like you would for channels or blues. i prefer my bait to be very alive and 4-7 inches long. biggerbait will get big fish.

    i look for narrow creek channels that lead to the main channel where the water drops off quick. i will set my jugs to drift across the points or straight down drastically changing water levels. basically i try to paralell a drop off. the flat heads will be staging in the drop off.

    kinda like bass fishing a caroilna rig if you bass fish.

    i use gamakatsu 6/0 hooks on a #12 braided nylon 3 ftdrop linefrom a barrel swivel. my main line on the jug is 15 ft long and is #30 braidednylon. above the swivel i have 1to4 oz weights. on calm days i lke the 1 oz. in hvy current or wind i prefer more weight of course.


    my jugs well you see the results. iuse the biggest noodles wal mart carries. the ones as big or bigger round than a 2 liter that have a 1inch hole in the middle. i use 1 inch pvc. my foam is 10 inches long and the pvc is 20 inches. basically you have no waste from a 10 ft pvc and a noodle from walmart. they will make 6 jugs.. i use a #10 screw in eye hook and silcon both sides of the hook after the screw is set. reflective tape on the top portion of the jug

    i have a 3/4 inch dia steel rod 5 inches long inside. i use foam in both end caps to reduce impact from the sliding of the weight

    a fish this size will keep a jug down 20 secs or so. they wont run off with it promise.

    http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k310/kevinmays/2008 Catfish/IMG_3885.jpg

    http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k310/kevinmays/2008 Catfish/Catfishin200842lbs.jpg


    i keep intensive notes on each jug drop and have each one numbered wth its info. like size of hook. how deep. size of bait and kind. moon pattern temp and water temp of each trip. i know where they are gonna be when i go.

    sometimes they dont bite.

    i ran 30 last night and didnt catch a flathead. caught 9 blues 10-15 lbs but the wind direction was backward, it was a full moon, and a cold front came thru and dropped the night time temp 30 degress in 24 hrs. my bait was marginal at best and i had a marginal trip.


    here are some pics of my jugs. i will try and get some better ones. hope this helps you.

    http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k310/kevinmays/noodle.jpg


    http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k310/kevinmays/noodle2.jpg
     
  14. kevinmays

    kevinmays New Member

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    onemore note. the places i catch big flatheads have lots of stumps and blowdowns. lots of structure like brush piles.

    i have my line half hitched to set depth. right now i am fishing 4-7 ft deep.
     
  15. kevinmays

    kevinmays New Member

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    also i got the nylon reversed. the bigger twine is tied to the eye hook of course. the smaller is tie to the barrel swivel.
     
  16. CatfishRookie1

    CatfishRookie1 New Member

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    Man some of those fish were as big as your children!
     
  17. jtrew

    jtrew New Member

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    Thanks for the info, Kevin! I find it especially interesting that you catch flatheads on freefloating jugs in a current. I've been jugfishing since 1983, and have never caught a flathead over a couple of pounds on a jug that was moving with the current.
     
  18. kevinmays

    kevinmays New Member

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    i always catch flatheads when there is no current or very little. i assume you fish the arkansas river alot and where i fish is nothin like that. i had a farm just out of des arc and i have been on the arkansas on several lakes and the current and channels are totally differtent. where i fish looks more like the white river.

    if the current or wind is blowing hard my catch will mostly consisit of blues.
     
  19. jtrew

    jtrew New Member

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    Yes, I mostly fish the current of the Arkansas River, because when I set my jugs where there's little or no current, my catch goes way down. But I've been thinking about setting some jugs out in the backwaters while the river's on a rampage. When the river's up enough to cover the dikes, I won't jug the main river; the current drags the jugs over the dikes, the jugs hang up, and I'm faced with either a dangerous job of retrieving the jugs, or leaving them as trash. Neither option is worth it to me.
     
  20. kevinmays

    kevinmays New Member

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    man thats tough. i have been on the arkansas many times and i definitely understand your pickel.

    good luck

    hevent been in two days and i got the withdrawals. we have a front move thru and day time highs are low 80's and night time is 60. it has slowed things a bit.