Finding them in rivers can be frustrating too, but lakes make me feel dumbfounded. I've tried time and time again at rend and have only caught one here or there while fishing for channels or by pure accident while running trots.:confused2:
Depends on what lake your fishing. Springfield has some, fish live bait in the brush piles etc. Doubt you'll fill a boat with'em but they are in there. Better blue lake. If your bank fishing I'd try the shallow water later in the evening or at night.
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