So, what times are the flatheads turning on where you fish... and what times do they quit? I get about an hour of bite time then it's seems useless after that... I usually don't stick around till dawn because by midnight I've done went hours without so much as a nibble. I KNOW I have found a hole that is absolutley chocked FULL of flatties (you'd have to see it, it would make any fleathead guy drool) but after an hour's bite time..... nothin'... no matter what... fish the head of the hole, tail of the hole, IN the hole... every logjam, shallows, flats, live bait, cutbait you name it I've done it (I think) Heck last night I even vertical jigged my bait in a big log jam that sat over a deep hole lol(anybody ever had any luck with that?) The flatties are in there so thick right now I could probably snag 'em with a treble hook lol, so let's hear it flathead masters! And if your Idea works, I'll sure give ya credit for it.:wink: The river is super LOW here by the way.