I finally caught my first flatty on a circle hook last Saturday. I would guess right at 14#. I left the rod load up like everyone says to do so, but several would not hook themselves. I know they were flattys because as soon as they felt the hook they broke top. I was fishing in less than 3' of water so I got a good look at several. I only had minnows so I had to use a small hook. Anyway, I got one for the season. I want to thank everyone that has given me advice and also all the different threads that gave advice as well. Thanks to everyone in the BOC for the help. I took a pic with a disposable camera and will take forever to take enough pics to develop. I will eventually get that pic on my avatar. Thanks again for the Brotherhood.