Finally got a flat this past weekend.:big_smile_2: One 20 pounder (which my girlfriend caught) and I caught a 10 pounder. But good gosh, how in the heck do I keep from catching those dang gar and turtles?:0a32: Seems like the gar will take the bait when they hit, which is usually pretty decent and then they will go on a decent run. Thats when I set the hook, but cant always tell when its a gar or a flat. Usually the flats will bump the bait a little, sometimes I will see the end of my rod bumping for 5 minutes before they take the bait clicker out. And when they pull its usually a nice steady pull. Just can't stand them gar, but I guess that's part of it!