I have looked at kahles very carefully, and I can't for the life of me see why they would work any better than a J hook. What am I missing? I hear people say they are the best for live bait such as gills, but yet if you look at most J or sickle hooks, there is more distance between the hook point and the bend of the hook which would leave more hook point exposed. The distance on the kahle hook from the tip of the point to the bend is very short, bait always slides down to the lowest point on the hook so what's the rest of the bend in these hooks good for? Someone explain this to me and I might give them another shot one day. Just curious..........