Does commercial fishing affect your fishing area?

Discussion in 'LOCAL INDIANA TALK' started by IndyCatGuy, Dec 1, 2009.

  1. IndyCatGuy

    IndyCatGuy New Member

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    This last weekend, me and JetDoc and my son went down to the Ohio River near Derby Indiana. We have been there before and caught lots of nice fish, but this past weekend, we caught 2 small channels and 1 buffalo. That was it for 3 days of fishing. The thing is: The last time we were there, I saw no commercial nets, but this time we saw at least 15 in a 2 mile stretch and we saw the people working them. We drifted and anchored both deep and shallow and could not buy a bite. Had fresh shad and skippies too. Ive seen some other reports from the river where people caught fish at other locations, so I ask...Can commercial fishing on such a big river really make that much of a difference? I say yes based on our results, but I want to hear what everyone else says.
     
  2. JEFFRODAMIS

    JEFFRODAMIS New Member

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    thats terrible...dont see how it COULDNT hurt your fishing
     

  3. fishstick

    fishstick New Member

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    i fish a medium sized river here in arkansas that has 5 commercial fishermen fishing the stretch of river that i fish. any deep holes where fish would hold are covered up with hoop nets. commercial fishermen in arkansas have no limits on the amount of fish that they can catch. they are allowed nets with mesh down to 1/2 inch called fiddler nets. fishing sucks in this river anywhere close to a boat ramp. if you want good fishing you have to travel 10 miles or so from the ramps to catch fish. with fish farming becoming popular, i think commercial fishing should be outlawed.
     
  4. fishmonster13

    fishmonster13 New Member

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    we've got the same problem here ,100ft long gill nets they use for catching paddlefish seems like since the commercial season opened i've only caught like three fish :angry::angry: had a friend drift into one of these nets, i would be really ticked if that had happened to me it was bad enough these guys were laying a net out just downriver of me as i was drift fishing that way, i should've drifted right into it and then proceeded to hack it up but i was by myself and two of them:angry::angry::angry:
     
  5. tbird

    tbird Member

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    http://www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/files/2006_Ohio_River_Commercial_Fisheries_Rpt.pdf

    I have no doubt commercial fishing is having a negative impact on the Ohio. Indiana banned sport fishing for paddlefish under the guise of conservation. At the same time selling unlimited commercial license to gill net all that could be caught, Research shows that 92% is by catch with no commercial value. Some 71% will be dead in the net. We have always had the hoop nets but the greed for roe is ruining our fishery.

     
  6. fishmonster13

    fishmonster13 New Member

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    i agree with that
     
  7. plainsman

    plainsman New Member Supporting Member

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    In the lakes I fish the commercial fishermen come down and pull 30-40,000 lbs of carp out of the lake and it don't make a dent in em. I think there is only 5-6 commercial fishermen in the whole state. I never seen one on the rivers.
     
  8. Welder

    Welder New Member

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    That is bad. Ban the comercial fishers for spoon and cats in ya state push to get the laws changed. I am glad Mo did on the Mo river only place left in Mo ya can comercial fish for catfish and spoons is the Miss river. Fact comercial fishing fishin has destroyed fish stocks worse than the recreational guys could ever think of.
     
  9. Mickey

    Mickey New Member Supporting Member

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    I like fishing the Smithland Pool on the Ohio. Commerical Fisherman may be affecting us but I have not seen them netting this area.
     
  10. Jollymon

    Jollymon Well-Known Member

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    Back in 2000 i think it was ,we were going to Masons inlet at Wrightsville bch an fishing for speckle trout an doing good for a bout 2 weeks .Then 1 afternnon a guy came in there an set 2 gill nets ,caught lots of speckled trout that day ,he was back he next day an got a few .After those 2 days with the nets in there the r&r fishing for that year went to nothing . He was fishing legaly but he sure messed it up for about 10 -15 people that were fishing there before he came in with the nets .
     
  11. Arkansascatman777

    Arkansascatman777 New Member

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    The netting is the problem, This stretch of the Arkansas river absolutely sucks for fishing. I live close to the Oklahoma line and as soon as you cross over into Oklahoma the fishing is great on the same river. They DO NOT allow netting in Oklahoma. And starting January 1st the new 30 inch rule goes int affect. I don't think the commercial fisherman are the problem it's the laws or lack there of that govern commercial fishing, the methods they can use and the size and numbers of fish they can keep.
     
  12. puddle jumper

    puddle jumper Well-Known Member

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    The commercial guys that work the section of the TN River where I used to spend most of my time have made a huge impact on the fish in THAT section of river, can they hurt the overall population?? , I really dont think so but they have really over fished that section of the river so bad that im looking for new water to spend my fishing time in, and I hate that, I have spent a lot of time learning that section of the river...:angry:

    And on another note, on the same subject, I was a big supporter of CPR untill I saw with my own eyes what a commercial guy takes out of my river in ONE day, X how many com. boats,, Its more that I will catch in two years time with rod and reel "and I fish a bunch", and they are doing that every day,,,huge amount of fish...:eek:oooh:,, Im not so big on it now, I still set free big fish and only take what I can use, but untill something changes with the commercial guy's I really make no differance in the river, one way or the other what I do...:confused2:

    Puddle
     
  13. river scum

    river scum New Member

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    well, you didnt catch many so thats your answer rite there brother! this state need to put the hammer down on that netting crap! the rest of the state isnt safe either though. idiots are taking fish from all over the state to sell to pay lakes, legal or illegal!!! with this economy it will only get worse! i feel for you guys down on the big river where its legal.
     
  14. Scott C.

    Scott C. Member

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    Just watch them unload and you'll have your answer. Anytime you have open season with no limit whatsoever on anything logic tells you it will impact the species.

    I've personally watched them unload at Tanners Creek in the Markland pool and to say my mouth hit the floor was an understatement. I'm talking several thousand pounds of fish by one out-fit in one day. I couldn't even imagine what 5 pros could unload in arguably the best pool on the big O.:angry::angry::angry:
     
  15. lance

    lance New Member

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    Now if they had a market and a way to ONLY catch those @#$% Asian carp It would be ok... I know my post is a little off base . I just have been hit one to many times in the boat by flying carp ! No I don't like commercial fishing ! And yes I would like to see every last one of those plankton eating carp Gone ! All of my carp experience has been on slack water inside bends of cumberland river .so...anyone fishing down that way heads up or heads down !
     
  16. o'boro cat hunter

    o'boro cat hunter New Member

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    I've seen more people netting in my area then normal,is because of pictures I've posted on the B.O.C, whatever it maybe it makes me what to keep those pictures to myself and that really Sucks.:angry:
     
  17. o'boro cat hunter

    o'boro cat hunter New Member

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  18. river scum

    river scum New Member

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    Aaron, that is an unfortunate result of sites like this!!!!!! keep your locations to yourself on here or loose your best spots!!!!!!! i dont post too much either these days because of this very issue. it doesnt matter if your in the " legal commercial areas" either, fish hogs will travel to ruin your river!

    be careful what you post brothers.



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  19. tswebb71

    tswebb71 New Member

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    Netting is awful on the Ohio right now. I fish from Smithland north to Levenworth and there are nets all up and down the Ohio. The problem with any sort of legislation is that you are going to have to get at least three states involved. Heck, it's almost like summoning God to get one state to pass something!:confused2:
     
  20. drpepper

    drpepper New Member

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    Commercial fishing hurts us all. Some more than others. Especially you Ohio river guys.... Indiana folks had their chance for a say in the matter a couple month ago and only one BOC member showed up for that hearing. despite it being advertised here in the Indiana section of the BOC. (Metalman)

    Commercial fishing don't get to me here, except for what ever would have migrated into the area I fish. Poaching is the problem here.