Deer Leases

Discussion in 'Deer Hunting' started by dust777man, Dec 12, 2007.

  1. dust777man

    dust777man New Member

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    Just wondering what each of you thought about the land you lease to hunt and the rights you have on it?

    I have some land I have leased for years and never have had any problems with the landowner letting other people hunt until this year. Today there was a fella hunting and he had permission to hunt. My whole point is since I am paying for the hunting rights, shouldn't I have the only right to hunt it. At least I know if I leased land to someone to hunt, they would hunt it and no one else.I guess I respect someone enough who have paid me to hunt my land. Now I know they own the land so I haven't said anything to them and probably won't. If I do that will propably end my hunting there. This is the second deer lease I have run into this. I guess the biggest problem is I plant food plots and buy and put up the stands and their in there hunting them and didn't do a thing. I guess I'll have to just put up with it. Has anyone else had this happen to them and what did you do if anything?
     
  2. curdog

    curdog New Member

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    Did you have an lease agreement drawn up? If you do looks to me like you should have exculsive hunting rights to that land. Corse i'm no lawyer either.
     

  3. catgetter1

    catgetter1 New Member

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    I agree with Richard if ya gots a lease agreement check the wording.....Even a verbal agreement is binding..............man that would S*#k ta go hunting and find someone in the stand................Another reason why I persued my own lease.....
     
  4. tufffish

    tufffish New Member

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    you need a written agreement for sure. we have a good one, with maybe to many restrictions, but it spells out everything. we are getting some really nice bucks off of it. a good lease protects you as well as the landowner. if he breaks the lease you will be able to get your money back just like he can remove you and keep your money. sometimes though you just have to put up with crap if the lease is good enough. i always treat the landowner as he treats us. if he is good, i am a great keeper of his land. if he is only out for my money i can be just as good a jerk as he is.
     
  5. ratkinson

    ratkinson New Member

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    When I find someone on my leases, I have them unload their guns. I photo their back tags and faces, and I escort them off the property. I report it to the DEC, with the understanding that if I see them again, there will be trespassing charges.
     
  6. Big Dav

    Big Dav New Member

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    I would ask the land owner if the person really had permission to be on the land. I had this problem a couple years ago on a lease I had. Found the guy just easing through the woods. Asked him who he was and what he was doing. Showed me a permission card and everything. The guy did not have permission to hunt, according to the land owner. He could just tell a good lie. Haven't seen the guy since.
    Every lease I have ever been part of, we control who has permission to hunt the land. That is why we lease the land, to hunt. Others lease the land to maybe run cattle or other live stock, but they don't have hunting rights unless they purchase the hunting rights /lease. If you lease the hunting rights than they are yours to control, or that is how it should be. We even post the land ourselves and make sure the posted signs stay up.
    Just my 2 cents,
    David
     
  7. dust777man

    dust777man New Member

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  8. BLKCLOUD

    BLKCLOUD Member

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    Pulaski Tn
    Round here you get off easier breaking and entering that hunting on leased land..
     
  9. dust777man

    dust777man New Member

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    Talked to a few people here at work. Everyone agrees that the land owner is wrong in letting other people hunt the land when someone else has the land leased.
     
  10. curdog

    curdog New Member

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    Sheridan, Arkansas
    Here in Arkansas even on private owned land not leased, You still have have to have written permission from the land owner also stating how long you can hunt on the land.
    On leased land if want to hunt for a day you can go to a member and buy a permit to hunt that day and the money collected goes to the lease treasurer.
    If permits are allowed on that lease.
     
  11. bigcatmaniac

    bigcatmaniac New Member

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    California Miss
    We lease A LOT of land, for many different uses. But one thing we always do is get a legal document that states what rights we have and what rights the land owner has. I have ran into guys that were deer hunting on land that we lease for cattle and they told us that the landowner told them that they could hunt "if we talked to the leasers" and they didnt talk to ANYBODY. All the land we lease is leased for hunting, we have primary and secondary sections of our leases. If we lease land for cattle, that is our primary lease then our secondary lease is hunting. We do that all the time and have had problems when the landowner still thinks they control the land. Well we have gone to court many times and have always had a legal document (signed by an attorney or even judge) that states that if this lease is breeched, all money will either be returned to us or the landowner will keep it depending on which way it is ruled.

    It has always worked for us and in this day and age if it aint legal it aint crap!