I finally got out today and put in a columbia bottoms. I managed a dozen asian carp and a few goldeyes in the cast net..........real deep. I had to put an extension on the rope. I also managed to net a 15lb paddlefish that was quickly discarded (an odd creature) and a 1 lb blue cat. No shad. Being that this was my first time fishing for the blues in the winter, I tried to take the advice from the board (I think) and fish the deepest holes with little current. Unfortunately, everything I fished this summer had a ton of current, so I was surprised how hard this was to find on this section of the Mississippi river. The deep holes behind the dikes were absolutely loaded with carp I suppose, as the screen was completely filled with bananas throughout the water column....including on the bottom. This made it virtually impossible for me to try to scope the kitty's. We did fish three spots on the Mississippi with no takers. Dodging the ice was tricky. The water temp was 33 degrees. From there, I went up the Missouri. I had never fished it really and was surprised as to how shallow it was. We found a few spots that were 30 feet deep behind the dikes, but had a lot of trouble with the ice. All in all, we didn't catch squat. So how deep is deep on the Missouri river? Was I doing anything right -- fishing the calm water in the deepest holes?? Any commentary would be appreciated. I now have to go repair my neighbors mailbox that a bowled over this morning.......backed the stinkin' boat right over it. Uggghhhh..