I have a box of 50 10/0 King Kahles but I never use them, I prefer 8/0 Gamma Circles or 9/0 from another Company, cant remember their name. I dont lose many fish. But people dont recommend using them for flats? I just bought a few more rods so I'll try one of the Kahle's, but I like not having to set the hook. I like just picking the rod up and using a side sweep and their on. I dont know, do alot of people lose hook ups or something?