Cell phones and gasoline

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  1. squirtspop

    squirtspop New Member

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    Don't know if this will come thru but worth a try as it may save someones life.

    [FONT='Tahoma', 'sans-serif']Shell Oil Comments - A Must Read.[/FONT][FONT='Tahoma', 'sans-serif'] Safety Alert![/FONT][FONT='Tahoma', 'sans-serif']Here's some reasons why we don't allow cell phones in operating areas, propylene oxide handling and storage area, propane, gas and diesel refueling areas. [/FONT][FONT='Tahoma', 'sans-serif']The Shell Oil Company recently issued a warning after three incidents in which mobile phones (cell phones) ignited fumes during fueling operations [/FONT][FONT='Tahoma', 'sans-serif']

    In the first case,[/FONT]
    [FONT='Tahoma', 'sans-serif'] the phone was placed on the car's trunk lid during fueling; it rang and the ensuing fire destroyed the car and the gasoline pump.

    In the second, an individual
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    [FONT='Tahoma', 'sans-serif']suffered severe burns to their face when fumes ignited as they answered a call while refueling their car!

    And in the third,
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    [FONT='Times', 'serif']an individual suffered burns to the thigh and groin as fumes ignited when the phone, which was in their pocket, rang while they were fueling their car. [/FONT][FONT='Tahoma', 'sans-serif']


    You should know that:

    Mobile Phones can ignite fuel or fumes

    Mobile phones that light up when switched on or when they ring release enough energy to provide a spark for ignition

    Mobile phones should not be used in filling stations, or when fueling lawn mowers, boat, Etc.

    Mobile phones should not be used, or should be turned off, around other materials that generate flammable or explosive fumes or dust, ( I.e., solvents, chemicals, gases, grain dust, etc.)

    T O sum it up, here are the: Four Rules for Safe Refueing
    1) Turn off engine
    2) Don't smoke
    3) Don't use your cell phone - leave it inside the vehicle or turn it off
    4) Don't re-enter your vehicle during fueling

    Bob Renkes of Petroleum Equipment Institute is working on a campaign to try and make people aware of fires as a result of 'static electricity' at gas pumps. His company has researched < B>150 cases of these fires.
    His results were very surprising:
    1) Out of 150 cases, almost all of them were women.
    2) Almost all cases involved the person getting back in their vehicle while the nozzle was still pumping gas. When finished, they went back to pull the nozzle out and the fire started, as a result of static.
    3) Most had on rubber-soled shoes.
    4) Most men never get back in their vehicle until completely finished. This is why they are seldom involved in these types of fires.
    5) Don't ever use cell phones when pumping gas
    6) It is the vapors that come out of the gas that cause the fire, when connected with static charges.
    7) There were 29 fires where the vehicle was re-entered and the nozzle was touched during refueling from a variety of makes and models. Some resulted in extensive damage to the vehicle, to the station, and to the customer.
    8) Seventeen fires occurred before, during or immediately after the gas c ap was removed and before fueling began.

    Mr. Renkes stresses to NEVER get back into your vehicle while filling it with gas.


    If you absolutely HAVE to get in your vehicle while the gas is pumping, make sure you get out, close the door TOUCHING THE METAL, before you ever pull the nozzle out. This way the static from your body will be discharged before you ever remove the nozzle.

    As I mentioned earlier, The Petroleum Equipment Institute, along with several other companies now, are really trying to make the public aware of this danger. You can find out more information by going to >[FONT='Tahoma', 'sans-serif'][FONT='Arial', 'sans-serif'] http://www..pei.org/[/FONT][/FONT][FONT='Tahoma', 'sans-serif'] & gt; Once here, click in the center of the screen where it says 'Stop Static'.[/FONT][/FONT]

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    I ask you to please send this in formation to ALL your family and friends, especially those who have kids in the car with them while pumping gas. If this were to happen to them, they may not be able to get the children out in time. Thanks for passing this along.
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  2. Mickey

    Mickey New Member Supporting Member

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    Thanks Chuck for sharing this valuable information. A must read for all Blonds.:smile2:
     

  3. Jerry60k

    Jerry60k New Member

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    I had to watch a video of this happening via a convienint store security camera in a safety class last year.

    Girl starts fueling her vehicle then reaches in a grabs her phone while answering walks back to the pump and when she touches the handles it bursts into flames.

    Not pretty so remember those warning labels on the pump are there for a reason.
     
  4. flathead willie

    flathead willie Well-Known Member

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    In places like Conn., it's already against the law to use a phone while fueling. Not a bad idea.
     
  5. slimdaddy

    slimdaddy Well-Known Member

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    im a gas hauler and this happened at one of our stores lady got back in the car while fueling got out touched nozzle burnt her and burnt the car all the way up this was about a year ago now she is sueing my company that owns the store and sunoco the pump manufactuer and the company that made the nozzle
     
  6. olefin

    olefin New Member

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    There's been 3 gas station fires in this area... ALL were caused from static electricity.

    From what I've read, no gas station fires have been proved to be caused from cell phones. Another link about gas pump fires and cell phones..

    But, just to be on the safe side..... I NEVER use a cell phone while refueling! But I seldom have a need to use a cell phone... I leave that to my wife. :big_smile:

    I haul boat fuel for my boats and I'm always careful to remove the fuel containers from my truck bed BEFORE filling the containers.
    One fire in this area was caused from filling a fuel container sitting in the bed of a pick up-truck.
     
  7. catfishjohn

    catfishjohn New Member

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    Thanks for the very important info!!!:wink::big_smile:
     
  8. slimdaddy

    slimdaddy Well-Known Member

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    ive watched this with the cell phones and not to knock women but there the one thats bad about doing this hope there is women that read these post it may save your life
     
  9. cathooked

    cathooked New Member

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    thanx for that info.now when the wife calls and ask me why i didnt anwser ill tell her i was at the pumps lol....
     
  10. Mark J

    Mark J New Member

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    I'm with Dayton.
    It used to be that if you wanted a 2 way radio or other communication device for a a hazardous area you had to special order an intrinsically safe radio.
    Thats standard equipment these days. any cell phone you buy is now intrinsically safe meaning using it in a room of explosive fumes wont trigger an explosion.

    Getting in and out of a car in the colder months in particular you'll have a static charge. You could blow yourself up at the pump in this manner but according to newspapers and the TV news it must be really rare because I've seen seen a fire or explosion reported that was by a phone or static discharge.

    If you want to read further. Snopes has an essay on it too.
    They say this letter and the reports are bogus.

    Cell phones might cause wrecks but they dont cause explosions.
     
  11. ryang

    ryang Well-Known Member

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    I would agree, however its not the explosives that are dangerous its the device to make the explosives explode that is dangerous.

    I would like to say that a cell phone IMO will not make something explode from what I understand its the static electricity from getting in and out of the car that can cause it.
     
  12. slimdaddy

    slimdaddy Well-Known Member

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    at one of my terminals i load at had bullitin posted that a motorola cell phone did cause an explosion at one of there terminals which was a citgo terminal
     
  13. jerryb

    jerryb New Member

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    I saw something on TV one time that addresses the issue of women being involved in more fueling fires than men.. the theory was that it was the way women get out of the car vs. the way men get out - we tend to grab the door frame and pull ourselves out (discharging the static electricity) where women tend to swing their legs out and stand up - no static discharge, so they're loaded with static when they grab the nozzle.

    Just a theory, but makes more sense to me than the phones causing the explosions...
     
  14. troutline

    troutline New Member

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    Myth Busters did a show on cell phones causing fires at gas stations. They tried different rings and lights and proved that cell phones do not cause the fires. It is static electricity generated from these people answering their phones.
     
  15. JERMSQUIRM

    JERMSQUIRM New Member

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    mythbusters already tried this one. busted it. filled a lexan box with large amounts of gasoline fumes. they had a phone in it. they called and called and called. never got even a slight fire. and the room was white with fumes. im not worried.

    a static electric charge from getting out of the vehicle and rubbing the seat {like when you shock someone from dragging feet on a carpt} is causing most fires.