Catfish Rigs and Leaders

Discussion in 'Terminal Tackle Review' started by roh1961, Jan 19, 2007.

  1. roh1961

    roh1961 New Member

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    I was considering making some leaders and rigs to have an easier setup for big cats. I was looking at CC for leader making materials and didn't know what I needed to get: coated steel or mono, snaps, swivels, single or double connector crimping pliers, single or double connections? I'm not even sure on dimensions, I guess I'm kind of lost. I'm partial to the Spro swivels, other than that I'm not too particular. Any help would be much appreciated, Thanks.
     
  2. barbel

    barbel New Member

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    As far as the other stuff goes, I'm not too sure, but I have had bad experience with steel in the past. I have caught catfish and when they got in they were all scratched up from the wire. I would advise against steel and go for a heavy monofilament leader.
     

  3. Ol Whiskers

    Ol Whiskers New Member

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    I use a lot of hooks, sinkers, swivels, and beads due to the heavy snags in the Great Miami River. I used to cart along 4 sizes of hook, packs of swivels, a bag of beads, and about 15-lb of noroll sinkers. Spent a lot of time retying all those knots when I had a breakoff.

    I got a little smarter and started using my winter evenings to prepackage a leader (mono recycled from respooling) tied with hook and swivel, bagged in a 2x3 ziploc bag with a bead. Bag has the hook size on it with a sharpie marker. I segregate each into groups by hook size in a larger zip bag, and those four bags go into a clear plastic food box with a snap lid.

    Now, when I have a breakoff, I just cut the mainline knot at the swivel, grab a bag, slip up a fresh sinker and the bead and tie one knot instead of three. Any hardware retrieved goes into a bag for recycling into new packs. Saves a lot of wear and tear on the fingers when your fishing, especially in the cold. Back in the water a lot quicker and don't have to pick thru a bunch of bags and boxes. Keeps the clutter out of the backpack, too.

    Dennis
     

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  4. canebreaker

    canebreaker Well-Known Member

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    I'm using a new rig these days.
    I place a swivel on the main line first, followed by a bead and coffee stir straw and another bead then the hook. One knot on main line.
    Off the swivel is a lighter leader for the sinker. Length of leader is up to you.
     
  5. Terry Day

    Terry Day New Member

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    Good idea Dennis. I'll have to start stocking up and premaking setups.
     
  6. BAM

    BAM New Member

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    I also pre tie hooks and leaders, from 1/0 to 10/0 and use 25 to 50 lb mono for the leader, stored in small zip lock bags. I use a worm binder to store the small bags and keep them separated according to size and length of leader.
    When I can find the stren leader material on sale that is what I use. The empty spools can be refiled with whatever type mono you want, keeps it neat and handy.
     
  7. catfish_jordan

    catfish_jordan New Member

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    i use the simple stuff.slip sinker on main line,snap swivle,leader with a float by the hook to keep it off the bottom.
     
  8. tufffish

    tufffish New Member

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    i use mono. buy some sleeves and swivels and make several different types until you find the kind you like. i started tying instead of using sleeves and like that better. i make up some with 3 way swivels and some as carolina rigs. always carry both.
     
  9. roh1961

    roh1961 New Member

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    I take it that that rig is for use with the clicker on?
     
  10. roh1961

    roh1961 New Member

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    I use slip rigs and sometimes have the weight below the hook, with the hook in a loop to drift on clean bottom lakes. I just thought the crimped rigs would be stronger and more dependable.
     
  11. CJ21

    CJ21 New Member

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    I think I need to start, making my own rigs.
     
  12. Wooly

    Wooly New Member

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    OK I'm new here what is the coffee stir straw for?

    Wooly
     
  13. Rainman4u2

    Rainman4u2 Guest

    Have no idea what the stir stick is for. I pre-tie all of my hooks, and keep the beads in a old pill bottle, I can usually re-tie a setup in under a minute.


    Ray
     
  14. vince

    vince New Member

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    Thanks for the idea!

    Looks like I will be making some setups this winter..

    Vince
     
  15. vince

    vince New Member

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    OOPS! CAN YOU USE BRAIDED FOR THE LEADER OR IS MONO PERFERRED?

    Vince
     
  16. CoonX

    CoonX Member

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    Mono or flourocarbon for the leader. Unless you want to spend the money and get a coated braided. The cats teeth tear up braided line too much.
    Will
     
  17. mudkip

    mudkip New Member

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    Don't need to get real fancy. 60 pound test mono. Save and use regular line, leader line not worth the diff in price. #3 barrell swivel and snell a gamakatsu circle on and you have a fine bottom rig if you add a 2-3 oz no roll sinker...may need more weight depending on the current where you fish.
     
  18. jlingle

    jlingle New Member

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    Try using a different color leader than your main line. I like to use 40lb clear berkley big game for my leader line. I use solar green 20 lb for my main line, and I use clear 40 for my leaders. The different colored leaders make it MUCH easier to untangle lines.

    As for my rigs, I just tie up a bunch of rigs with: about 20"-40" of clear 40 lb berkley big game, I tie a swivel at the top, then a 8/0 gamakatsu octopus circle at the bottom. If I break off, all I have to grab from the tacklebox is a weight and a bead. I think I"m gonna start tying up rigs and bagging them like was suggested. That's a fantastic idea.
     
  19. mrmarkedwards

    mrmarkedwards Active Member

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    during the winter i tie up as many rigs as i can and put them in sandwich bags. then i put the sandwich bags into gallon size bags marked with what rigs they are the general size of the hooks i tied to them. working from left to right the rig consists of a swivel, a short piece of mono with a sinker slide on it, another swivel, and a snelled hook tied to this swivel. (photo #1). next on the end of my line i tie a snap or other connection (photo #2) if i want to change hook sizes,baits or go to a different style rig i can replace it in seconds. in photo #3 this is the whole thing ready to be baited and casted.
     

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  20. CatfishHateMe

    CatfishHateMe New Member

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    that seems like alot of tackle to lose from snags. unless i fish a clean bottom lake or a river bank i kno has a somehwat clean bottom i go with as little tackle as possible. good sized swivel, leader, snelled hook. sometimes when i kno im going to have to sacrifice and get snagged alot to catch some nice fish ill use a big split ring for a swivle since they are cheap. all i have to do with this pre tied rig is slip the bead and sinker on which i have the beads in a small sandwich bag and the sinkers in a shot bag.