:cool2:I am asking for a rookie tip here. My brother and I have just discovered the benefits of fishing with cut shad. More stikes and more cats!!! So we bought a circular net to catch shad with. Our first trip was to Spencer lake 3 weeks ago and we came up with enough to go fishing with. On Thursday 10/30/08 I went to Spencer figuring I would catch some Shad with the net and enjoy the rest of the day fishing for Cats. I did not catch 1 Shad, nor did I catch anyother fish. It was like they were completely gone. Needless to say I was baffled. I noticed the water was very cloudy probably due to the recent rains. For you Ohio boys, can anyone tell me what the problem is. My concern is that when the weather cools they move to depper water, or was it the muddy conditions? I had hope to put a couple dozen in the freezer for any warm winter days. Any responses are welcomed. Please help!!!!!!