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i am lookin for catapah worms eggs or moths does any 1 know where i can get sum at i have 4 trees but cant seem to get any worms on tree either the soil is to hard or last winters flooding rains flooded the cocoons out of the ground my neighbor has 50+ trees and he has nun either what should i do to attrack or breed them

i guess ill stick to cut bait and shrimp and livers till i can figure out whut needs to be dun
to attrack them it one the most productive baits i know of

BTW try soaking shrimp in chicken liver blood seems i get more hits like this maybe u will to


fish are in spawn mode atm so bite is real slow other then drift fishing for them and i havent dun that in years i only bank fish now
 

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back 3 years ago we had a few on the tree with them on there backs but they came from stockmans trees witch he has a bunch of them out there like that

see my main problem is geting them on the trees and returning next year i live by ascend aka monsanto im wondering if it has to do with smoke coming out there stacks

ive bought dozens and dozens of them and putem on the trees and mulch'd the surrounding areas with a good 2 ft of mulch for them to bed in when its time for there cocoons to form


seems like they dig into the mulch but when trees produce goodsize leafs and when its time for them to crawl out they dont or wither they fly away i dunno im kinda baffle'd by this if u know whut i mean

back 18 years ago when i was a yungin my neighbor had tons i mean tons
there where so many that u couldnt fishem all out in year then they started slacking off then to present day none

if i could only getem to return that would be nice

i know u have to wait 3 years after u putem on the trees to letem do there cycle but ive dun this and no results


**was fishing last night killer storm rolled up on me i might go tonite if it dont storm**
 

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i got one tree,my worms pop up and start eating.when the leaves are gone.you will see a few crawling around on the ground then there gone.this happens about thee times during the summer.as soon as i thought my tree was big enough i put some worms on early that summer maby 2 dozen.they came back twice that year. mine comes on late i Had some last September .
 

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when do they start or should i say when do they lay eggs

and what time of year do u start to see the worms

i put 3 dozen out last year and havent seen nun and i leftem on tree i seenem crawling down the trucks and burrowing in the ground but nuthings hatched

dunno whats wrong
 

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yeh i got 4 and neighbor 50+ my problem is geting the worms to return its tireing buying worms and leting them roam the trees and next year no hatchlings in my mind i say i shoulda fished with whem bit*** hehe
 

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most of my trees had a lil bit of leaves left on them my trees are 14 y/o so there kinda big not huge but big enough to support them like 15ft tall or bigger they flower n all but no returning worms
 

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theirs a old man Mr. Fulbright that sell them real nice guy ,he would know a lot more than me. 338-7982 ask for Larry, but his worms nominally come in first of July. he is all about passing on old bait .i know he will help if he can.
 

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Why not try and contact your state Department of Forestry and/or local horticulture clubs for help in determing if your conditions are conduscive to hatching and maintaing catalpa worms. I'm sure there is some agency there which can give you a helping hand. But you must remember, what is good in your opinion may be bad in your neighbors. Not everone wants the same things in life.
 

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not sure if this will help or not but a few years back my dad got some cutting and rooted about 20 trees to sell. when they were one year old still in the pots they had a huge crop of worms that just showed up. So im thinking that a moth or butterfly has to lay eggs on the tree in spring for the trees to have worms that year because the trees spent the winter in the greenhouse.
my thought is you just have to get lucky and be visited by the catalpa worm fairy
 

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yeh ive hurd that but my cocoons are in ground under the trees so if they hatch they should fly up and bam there the tree they need maybe i should build a greenhouse around them if all else fails then maybe they will stay in one specific area prior to hatching :)
 

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Your statement " i live by ascend aka monsanto im wondering if it has to do with smoke coming out there stacks" may have more merit than you believe. Thats why I suggested you have the bug experts assist you. What was right and proper yesterday has little value today. Things change.
 

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Have you been cutting back your trees? Also I have found that the moth prefers trees that are not flowering. I have an acre of them and which ever trees are producing seed that year will not have nearly the numbers of hatchings as trees not producing fruit. Why that is I do not know. I have seen the leaves turn yellow on flowering trees, and the others be almost bare. Even try moving worms to the trees, and seems they leave the tree. Any pesticides that you or your neighbors use will affect the worm-to-moth cycle. Fire ants also will prevent moths from hatching. Moths hatch with the moon. Shortly after the full moon check your trees for spots that look like frost damage. Those will be your hatchings. Keep the wasps in check, and fire ants at this time as they will devour the hatching worms quickly. I do not use them, but I have seen tents over some trees in an effort to keep wasps and birds away. You could hatch the moths on your own and release them when you want. (email if you want info on this). I have found this handy in getting worms early. I hope some of this will be useful. please post info that clemson shares with you.
 

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thnx for your info i will do sum of the trees flower while sum do not then sum of the trees have brownish or yallow spots on the leaves ive looked closely but i dont think there eggs they maybe too much sun or a fungus yes i would like more info if u got any clemson exchange guy is comeing over at 4 so we'll see once again thnx:highfive:
 
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