i was up in phoenix yesterday and picked up a gamakatsu Catfish assortment and IMHO opinion it was a reaaly good buy. you get 4 diffrent hooks and i think there are 5 or 10 of each hook. you get 8/0 red circles, 6/0 circles, 4/0 shiner (kahle), and 1/0 bait holder hooks. all of this for 9 bucks. i picked up 2 sets. this will be the fisrst time i have used cirsles, i have known alot of people that use them and have read alot about them. i have been using octopus hooks for a while and thought it was time i give circles a try. just thought i woud pass along this bit of info.