Braid is birdnesting

Discussion in 'All Catfishing' started by Hunt4lyf, Jan 8, 2010.

  1. Hunt4lyf

    Hunt4lyf New Member

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    I went out today to practice with my new cat setup, a 15 ft ugly stik and an Okuma Coronado CD65. I put used 40 lb PP braid on it that I had used on another reel all summer and never had one issue with it. When I went to cast, the braid was getting major tangles in it on the release inbetween the spool and the first eye. This is a new setup for me and the first time I had used it. I was practicing on a soccer field and my best cast was 365 ft with a 4 oz weight.

    Does braid go bad? I was under the impression that braid didn't take a set like mono does and lasted for alot longer than mono does also. I thought maybe I had to much backing (20 lb stren) so I took off 30-40 yds of it and while it didn't tangle as bad it still did it, little ones though. Should I just respool with new stuff or is there something that I am missing? Thanks.
     
  2. Catfishboy1995

    Catfishboy1995 New Member

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    Might want to get some line conditioner before you buy new line unless you dont care..but if it was colg out.. the braid will freeze up.
     

  3. Snagged2

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    I don't know, But,,,
    Welcome to the BOC, er , a USCA...:Happy:
     
  4. tofish

    tofish New Member

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    get the line wet, or maybe tighten the line on the reel. or adjust the drag for casting. what i can think of. 364 cast is a hella of a cast to me.
    gary
     
  5. Hunt4lyf

    Hunt4lyf New Member

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    USCA-RECLAIMED-ACCOUNT New Member

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    Dennis,I,ve got reels(both spinning and casting) that have braid on em up to 5 years old.I,ve never experienced anything like what your describing.Maybe it got something to do with getting used to the new setup.Hope ya get it straightened out.
     
  7. Hunt4lyf

    Hunt4lyf New Member

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    I'm thinking I figured it out. I've been reading some older posts about using braid and it was recommended to spool it by running the line through a phonebook with some weight on it. I did that last year when I put it on originally and never had a problem but when I did it today on the new rig I just put it on like regular line. I'll be that it wasn't spooled on it tight enough (I hope). Thanks for the reply BCP.
     
  8. mrmarkedwards

    mrmarkedwards Active Member

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    sounds like you may have found the error of your way. i was thinking the line wasn't spooled under tension or you have the reel overfilled or a combination of both. go back out to that soccer field and tie your line to one post and walk to the other end of the field then reel it back on with a lot of tension and give it a few casts. i doubt you'll have any problems after that.
     
  9. CountryHart

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    I agree. Even with mono i occasionally like to tie off my line and back up down the drive till i get it unspooled. Give it a good stretching and wind it back up under tension. I lost the best fish i ever had a hold of last year with 65# PP. I didn't spool the line under much pressure and kept tightening the drag. Bad mistake on my part and ended up losing my fish. Thinking my new 6500C had let me down, i got home and did the walk backward thing, spooled it under tension and never had another problem. Live and learn
     
  10. JEFFRODAMIS

    JEFFRODAMIS New Member

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    i live by a main road so i look silly as hell walking down the edge witha 10 ft water eagle lol
     
  11. BigBird

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    I dont use spinning but use the phone book thing with a little weight on top to spool up. Then it is easier to do with one person-my kids apprciate that.

    The only thing i have to add to your post is that i wet my line down. i usually spool mine up tie it off to something in the yard and head down the street with my water bottle . i wet the spool as it unwinds and then wind it back up tight.
     
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  12. Blind In Texas

    Blind In Texas New Member

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    I love that sig....
     
  13. Blind In Texas

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    Good point. I watched a guy on utoob doing the same thing. He just kept looking at the camera with a goofy grin and all the while he kept tightening the drag on his spinning reel. The cut scene was him panting, with a broken rod above the handle, and a nice fish.
     
  14. Jeremy Sheffey

    Jeremy Sheffey New Member

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    Welcome to the Club...

    i think you found the error of your ways, and when i read your post that is exactly what i was thinking and was going to tell you...

    after you are done, take and cast it out absolutely as far as you can and reel it in while holding tension with your pointer and thumb while reeling in. sometimes it is good to where a glove because it could burn ya, but keep as much tension on the line as you can as you reel it as fast as you can so you can get a good tight spool. i even try to do that when i check my lines.

    i do it with mono as well as when i used to use braid a while back, which i am converting back to this year. as long as your not in abrasive spots, you can't beat it. i used it for musky fishing for a long time, i should have never switched over to mono.
     
  15. Jeremy Sheffey

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    on more thing, that line conditioner is a waste of time in my opinion for braid especially. i couldnt tell much difference on my 50lb mono, but on my smaller it seemed to help A LITTLE, but didnt last but a few casts. IMO its a waste of money.
     
  16. BubbaCat

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    Jeffro i got news for you you just look silly as hell !
     
  17. hct236

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    An easy and cheap way to make a line spooling tool is to screw a 2x4 to your work bench, drill a 7/16 hole, put a short piece of 3/8 all thread thru the hole and secure with a nut and washer on each side of the 2x4 then place your spool on the all thread between 2 more nuts and washers. Use the nuts and washers on either side of the spool to adjust tension and reel the line on the reel under tension. I included a drawing
     

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  18. Mickey

    Mickey New Member Supporting Member

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    Jeffro would that look be a change? Put Palin's Pic on your shirt and no one will notice you.
     
  19. Jeremy Sheffey

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    Reps to ya buddy, i have been trying to figure something else out... i am really glad you posted that... Reps to ya!!!
     
  20. hct236

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    sometimes it helps to use felt washers like for battery terminals between the steel washers and the spool.