The octopus is what I am using. Its not like the standard circle hooks. I may go by Dicks today and see if they stock larger than 5o. I am using a carolina rig with a large float. I really like this method. The only downside is all the weight from the gill, sinker, and float. I need bigger poles. Eagle Claws here I come...
I have heard from others that flattys will take up to thirty minutes to eat a live gill(sometimes). They like to soften the fish up a bit and even try to knock scales off. This is all what I have heard. Im no expert. That seemed to be the case on one of my hits, is the gill I pulled out of his mouth was completley descaled and eyes popping out and very soft. There were no teeth marks like a trutle or gar. This is what has me stumped.