I have only been a member on this site since June and it is a wonderful site with plenty of cool guys/gals, a ton of knowledge and gear and I have talked, met and fished with people I would have never met without the BOC. I have learned so much since becoming a member and I see all kinds of arguements because everyone has their own opinion on subjects, I have even jumped in on a few because its hilarious to me and Im not sensitive or take things personal. There is however something that just doesnt sit well with me. I have noticed that everyone (not literally) but most of the people here knock every reel on the market except Abu Garcia. It is disgusting actually lol. I personally own a few 6500s and 7000s and I dont see what the fuss is about, they do their jobs just as my Okumas, Penns and Ming Yangs. I have friends with shakespere arsenal's who have reeled in 70 and 80LB Cats with no problems. Of course the arsenal's dont cast as far but if you're fishing from a boat who needs a reel to cast 100-200 yds? My Penn and Okuma spinning reels cast further than my Abu's do, does this make them better? My clickers on my Penn baicaster's are stronger than my Abu's, does this make them better? The Drags are stronger also, better? To make a comparison I put a 6500C3 on a 8' glow stick and a Penn 320GT2 on one, they both reeled in 20-50# Bluecats. Of course it was easier with the Penn. Casting distance was even if I used one more ounce higher on the Penn. Which one is better? I bought a 7000 put it on a Tiger M/H and the same Penn on a M/H Tiger, same thing they both reeled in a few 30s and 40s, it was easier with the Penn. The drag was better and clicker stronger on the Penn, casting distance wasnt even close the Penn won hands down, which one is better? All of these Company's have been around for a while and make an excellent product. Why cant people just recommend reels without saying this is the god of reels or this is the best hands down? Every reel has its place in a given fishing situation. Its kinda like how people think Mercedes is the best car because it has status, when a Lexus and BMW is just as good just to name a few. If I buy a S500 Benz, a 745i BMW and a LS460 Lexus and look at the amount of lost value after 3-4 years its amazing that the benz values drops the most but the cost is higher. Its the same with Abu Garcia it costs the most but Okuma, Shakespere and Penn cost a fraction but last just as long and gets the job done just as good if not better. I mean its not Saltwater but I fish the James River and it is just as good as any of the great rivers for big fish ie Ohio, Mississippi, Missouri rivers, etc and dont get me wrong I love my Abu Garcia's and am happy with their performance but If I had to pick one and only had $100 to spend I would pick the Penn, Shakespere or Okuma because I could get 2 for the price of 1 Abu. If I was on a boat definetly, now If I had to make extremely long casts from the bank I would probably then consider an Abu. I mean if my favorite deep hole is 60 yds away and they all could get there I just cant see myself getting the Garcia. Now If I needed to cast 200 yds then yes I would get the Garcia. If I had a boat which I could have right now but am going to wait until 2010 I wouldnt even have a reason to own a Garcia. But I never knock these reels, I recommend them along with any other reel. Now I know this will probably cause an arguement but I just want to know why some of you guys knock other reels because you have an Abu Garcia or even 20 or 30 lol. Some people havent even tried other name brands but yet you talk down on other brands why? This is gonna be hilarious, if I lose friends or even gain enemies you need to tuck your panties in and get into another sport.