I found out yesterday that Elli one of the ammish guys who is a big time trapper got a 30# bobcat friday night. I found this out by another ammish guy that lives two houses down from him. we/ my dad was getting so leather stiched up for him. 30# is like 20 # bigger than any of the cats I have ever seen come from this area. Elli said he was going to look into full body mounting and keeping it. I have yet to get my first cat and here he is with a tiger.