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Discussion in 'LOCAL IOWA TALK' started by SRWELDON, May 21, 2009.
does anyone know if you can use bluegill for bait in iowa?
Thats all I have been using lately. Getting bluegill out of my farm pond and using the guts and fish for cut bait. Best bait so far. Getting some really nice channels in.
In this part of the country we use alot of gills for bait, one of the best...
i can't get a straight answer out of the DNR. One office I called said NO the other office said you can catch them and not take them off the hook and use them for bait on the same rod and reel they were caught on.
yessir. you can use bluegill and sunfish so long as they are caught with hook and line. it is illegal to net them and use them. same with bullhead.
heck yes!!!!! especially if you're fishin for flats, sometimes you'll get a big channel that will be hungry enough to take one but gills are prime flattie bait for me!!!
as long as you're not netting them and you're catching them on rod and reel you're good bro. if you feel comfortable enough to throw out the same hook that you caught the gill on for catfish go for it but I wouldn't advise it. you'll probably end up gettin your feelings hurt
Blue gill can be used so long as you catch them with a fishing pole. We use green ears that we catch in a farm pond with a trap.
Bluegill caught by pole only
Green sunfish and orange-spotted sunfish by pole OR castnet
Best way to tell the difference between a bluegill and a Green Sunfish is by the mouth .... The corner of the mouth on a bluegill is before the eye while on a green sunfish the corner of the mouth is about the middle of the eyeball when looking at the fish from the side with it's mouth closed
Generally as a rule if it's a small mouth it's a Bluegill and a large mouth it's a Green Sunfish ... Some Green Sunfish will have some blue on it's gills but that's not what defines the Bluegill from Green Sunfish
Look at the Iowa DNR website for pictures and descriptions of various fish ... They refer a lot to the book Iowa Fish & Fishing which is available by calling the DNR offices for a mere 14 bucks ... You'd be amazed how many websites use it as a reference and not just those in Iowa
There's nothing in the regs that backs either opinion. I've seen the same question on the net hundreds of times because Iowa regs are kind of vague. Here's the deal. There is a list of fish you can't use for bait. It is a short list like carp, goldfish, gar and one or two other things. But there is another list telling you what fish you can basically catch with baitfish methods like traps and nets that baitshops can also sell. It doesn't specify "these are the only baits you can use" or anything like that. It doesn't even include worms. If you obtain it legally, and it isn't on the excluded list, it's bait. The same hook? That's just ignorance.
If your local DNR guys are that foggy on the rules, let their bosses know. I haven't had any problems. Have been checked a few times. One DNR guy told me where the sandpit with the runt gills was.
Ok, so I'm pretty new to catfishing. I've caught maybe 10 catfish in my life. I hear alot about using bluegills for bait, but I don't know how everyone uses them as bait. Do you guys use them dead or live? And live or dead, how do you hook/present them to the catfish? Thanks
Ill post some pics tommorow of different ways, if they don't get to it before I do.
always live. you need a large hook. i use 6 to 8/0 cirlcles. you can get them through their back, past the top fin (i'll let you see an example if Steve posts the pic). you can hook them through their eyes- like in one out the other. or you can put the hook in the mouth through the top of the head, in between the eyes. i use the last one mostly.
you can use them but you cant buy them at a bait shop
As long as it was caught on a hook you can use it, the reason for the "can not use" list is because those fish are highly destructive by nature and are known to destroy whole eco systems. That is why you are also not supposed to dump minnows back in to the water, or transport bait from one spot to the other. Bluegill are easily identifiable, but Iowa has over 15 breeds of chubs and even more minnows...
Hope this helps...