Biologist advises closure of lock @ Watts Bar Dam to deter Asian Carp threat

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  1. zachM54

    zachM54 Member

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    Already have Silver Carp in Chickamauga and we don't need them in Watts Bar. Capture.JPG
     
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  2. Herbhome

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    Can they do that? Don't the river boats have to get through? And probably more important, could it work?
     
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    It's doubtful they'll close. Matter of fact I'm not sure it's been proven yet there are really silver carp in Chickamauga or it's a rumor.
     
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  4. Herbhome

    Herbhome Well-Known Member

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    Watched a Jeremy Wade documentary on the Mississippi the other day and he showed how the carp have made it north on the river but are not in twin cities yet. They, (biologists), believe it may be due to the series of locks and dams.
     
  5. TITANSFAN2104

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    I wish every one of those things would go belly up
     
  6. prlwng

    prlwng Well-Known Member Supporting Member

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    Would be nice if here in South Dakota we could use them as cut bait. They are spooky when you are anchored and one jumps into boat as you are napping.
     
  7. Jbuck

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    Wasn't long ago they were a rarity where I fish in the Ohio and to be honest I got a little kick out of seeing one jump 5-6 ft. out of the water. In the past several years they are no longer a rarity, they are everywhere there is slack water. I have had them come in the boat and dent live well lids, break a sonar mount, and tear our wiring from under the console, not to mention the "unwelcome" slime and whatever that red stuff they secrete is getting all over the boat. As far as closing a lock to block their migration up river I would think it would have to be closed forever as they would be stacked up below the dam just waiting. Should be a lesson in there somewhere about importing non native species and how nature can negate even the most secure containment systems.
     
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  8. metalman

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    Any measures taken can only slow their progress. Maybe not in our lifetimes but I believe they will ultimately get everywhere.
    Of course there are those with a vested commercial interest in processing the carp for food who will most likely be glad to see them proliferate.
    They do make decent bait though.

    ...W
     
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  9. Hurst11

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    You would think with all the friggin technology today they could make something to put in the water that is made off of their dna that will only target that fish. Something that would make them steril. It wouldn’t get rid of what’s already here but drastically slow the spread of em and after x amount of year the population start dropping. Hey we can wish right.
     
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    Great blue cat bait! Here is my preferred method for slabs!

     
  11. 135 Driver

    135 Driver New Member

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    The TWRA confirmed asian carp in Chickamauga two weeks ago. Not a rumor. I saw it on their Facebook page and local news.
     
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  12. Jbuck

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    I have had that theory about ticks and skeeters for years but I am still waiting.
     
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  13. Hurst11

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    One would think so
     
  14. Panfish Bill

    Panfish Bill Well-Known Member

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    Not a rumor anymore. This one jumped into a Bass fishermans boat and he saw 20 more swimming around. It looks young so it had to been spawned in Guntersville or Wheeler. If it was spawned around the Chick then we have a huge problem... or a new bait supply.

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  15. Hurst11

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    Bill you have both a huge problem and new bait supply. But it will lower the bait supply of other baitfishes too.
     
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  16. twaskom

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    I think it is more of just a huge problem.
     
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  17. Jbuck

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    Yes, I agree the availability of them as bait does not IMO outweigh the problem(s) they cause.
     
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  18. Smashdn

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    You don't want them. They are thick in the Ohio and Green Rivers where I fish. There has been some success reported of the acoustical barrier at Lake Barkley (Cumberland river Reservoir). Hopefully that is a good first step.

    Dams don't stop them unless there is a significant difference in pool heights. They went over/around/through four dams on the Green river and another one on the Barren River. All but two were decommissioned low head lock and dams. When the water gets up they just head upstream.