Better round for snake shot?

Discussion in 'Handgun Talk' started by derbycitycatman, Jul 30, 2008.

  1. derbycitycatman

    derbycitycatman Well-Known Member

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    If they even make snake shot for these rounds. I dont want to guy buy a new pistol just for snake defense so I want to choose between a 22, which is a Ruger 22/45 and a Kel Tec P-11. I dont/cant carry around a shotgun for this purpose as I wouldnt get a thang done doing so.
     
  2. germanmudfish

    germanmudfish New Member

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    it has been a while since I bought any, but the last I bought was for a .45 and it did not feed very well. Good luck with this and watch where you step.:eek:oooh::wink:
     

  3. jsharper

    jsharper New Member

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    I think that I would stick to the .22 without the shot. I have tried snake loads in .22mag and .38 and found that you must be close to kill the snake fast. I am talking not more than 5 ft. I went back to solids. I have a friend that tried them in his .40, with similar results.

    Jim
     
  4. jtrew

    jtrew New Member

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    The Super Comanche looks like a great gun for the .45//410 option, at a price of less than $160. If I were going to be traipsing around in snake country, I'd definitely have one of those.
     
  5. Old Bill

    Old Bill New Member

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    Jerry, that looks like it would get the job done!

    I have wanted a single shot .410 pistol for years to carry on my riding mower for snakes!

    http://www.firestorm-sgs.com/images/supercomanche.jpeg

    Have you seen one of the Super Comanche guns up close? I can't make out the do-dads in and by the trigger guard?? Any idea what they might be?

    Thanks,

    PS: If anyone knows of a .380 snake shot bullet, I'd like to know what it is.
     
  6. Mark R.

    Mark R. New Member

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    (PS: If anyone knows of a .380 snake shot bullet, I'd like to know what it is.)

    Bill,
    My local gun shop has been unable to locate any shot loads for the .380- I wish they were available!
    Mark
     
  7. seokfisherman

    seokfisherman Member

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    Taurus makes a .410 revolver called the Judge.
     
  8. 223reload

    223reload New Member

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    As far as I know federal,and winchester offer the crimped ratshot loads ,in 22lr,CCI offers both LR and Mag in 10 round packs with the plastic capsules,I have used em and theypattern good enough to 10 ft.cci also sells the shot capsules to handload the centerfire pistol rounds.[Speer]
     
  9. ratkinson

    ratkinson New Member

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    We don't have many venomous snakes in immediate are here. A very small area of prarrie rattlers which could get you some jail time here if you kill them, and maybe an occasional copperhead (rarely). The only reason I kill snakes around here is for the skins, I can make a decent buck making hat bands and walking stick grips/decoration. Again state regulations comes into play. We also have a pretty decent variety of the kingsnake family which some people prize as pets, so I got to get them alive. I had a buddy down south that wanted a little help "cutting down" his snake population. Although not as convienient to carry, the most effective gun I used on them was my little coach gun, with super cheap skeet load. Left nothing but snake burger at the ranges you guys are talking about. If it is in an area where you can't shoot, He's got a pretty neat little piano wire loop pole which really cuts em' down to size.

    Richard
     
  10. Guns & Cockpits

    Guns & Cockpits New Member

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    During snake season, I keep my Taurus model 85 .38 special loaded with snake shot. It's a little snubbie, and it disperses that shot pretty wide, so you have to be pretty close. Snakes around here don't get all that large to begin with, and they can't strike much longer than their own body length, so getting close isn't too troubling.
     
  11. Snagged2

    Snagged2 New Member

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    I carry a snubby .45 LC while hiking, and have used the CCI snake loads in that. I haven't actually killed any rattlers, but, I killed a rabid beer bottle at about 20 paces, and was fairly impressed with the performance. later, I killed a viscious cottontail and it went down quicker than a blow out,, so, I have pretty good faith in the loads for 'nakes.
     
  12. Fivebraids

    Fivebraids New Member

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    I've tried rat(snake) shot in a .22 and a 9mm and it's useless for the nasty slithering monsters we have down here. All it does is make them mad! I shot a small rattler from about 5' away and had to put three rounds of rat/snake to even make him stop moving. I finally went into the house and got the wife's .410 shotgun and put an end to that snakes moving around.

    Here's an example of what we deal with:

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    Rat/snake shot would have really made that one mad. Heck, it probably would have reached up, grabbed the pistol from my hand and smacked me with it!

    Luckily my neighbor got it with a pair of .410 slugs before it made it into our yard.

    Oh, and waste not:

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    We ate the meat and I'll be tanning the hide soon. :wink:

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  13. catfisherman369

    catfisherman369 Floyd

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    nice snake marty

    ive used 22 snake shot for bullfrog
    not sure id trust it on a big snake .

    the 45 snakeshot should pack a punch .
     
  14. peewee williams

    peewee williams New Member

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    I have lived in the South East USA for 63 years.I have never had a problem killing any snake with .22 lr rim fire Rat Shot "IF" you shoot them in the head.If you can not hit one in the head with Rat Shot,there is not much need to carry it.I have cut them in half with a shotgun and found them alive hours later.Unfortunately you can not always hit a snake in the head for many reasons.

    Mambas due to speed,huge King Cobras and spitting Cobras are the only three Snake types that I am personally familiar with and know just a little of,that could be dangerous at 5 feet.All have been extremely rare on the loose in the USA.A measured 7 foot 1 inch horizontally measured Diamond Back can not strike 5 measured feet.It can come close enough to get you very excited.I know,as my father caught one when I was 12 in Naples Florida and sold it to the Everglades Wonder Gardens in Bonita Springs.I now leave all snakes alone,unless I think that they may pose a danger to a human or domestic animals.If needed,I try to relocate them if I can.

    I hand loaded Speer 44 shot capsules with 7 1/2 shot.I like them.I have killed Rabbits up to about 20 feet and Squirrels at about 16.These are estimated distances.

    You can buy CCI shot shells made for 45 auto.You could try a box of 10 to see.

    I had the old FMJ 45/410 single and double barrel derringers and the .22 rf mini revolvers.I liked mine.I have small hands.I think it helped with them.I thought them all to be great defensive guns,but poor recreational shooting or hunting guns.I think the same about all small handguns.

    I love you Brothers and Sisters.peewee
     
  15. Mark R.

    Mark R. New Member

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    I was out mowing down some heavy weeds by my pasture and noticed some rats running around, grabbed my High Standard derringer and dropped one a lot longer than I ever would have thought a .22 CCI shotshell would have reached.
    They aren't too bad to shoot in the chicken house either, like peewee said all you have to do is shoot them in the head, it stops them.

    For the larger snakes I have a Judge, it's a hoot to shoot .410's through it, 265 grain .45 LC cowboy loads are really mild.
     
  16. don3778

    don3778 New Member

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    I killed a nice rattler yesterday behind the house while bushhogging some deer hunting lanes, of course I wasn't carrying a gun with me at the time. I got off the tractor and broke off a green gum sapling about the size of your thumb and about three feet long and worked his head over with that. He wasn't a monster like we have killed here before but it had 14 rattlers and a button. I have killed more with green saplings than I have ever killed with a gun, so I guess my vote goes for a green sapling, lol.
     
  17. catmando2

    catmando2 New Member

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    I broke down and invested in one of these for less than $200.00
    and have not regreted it. It is a fine handgun and I have relocated several bad snakes to snake heaven with it. it comes with 2 chokes, 1 for .45 cal and 1 for the .410 ga. it holds a very good pattern out to about 30 ft and up close you have to hold a little closer aim. My eyes are not as good as they used to be so I really like it for snakes around my property
     
  18. Quack_Addict88

    Quack_Addict88 New Member

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    CCI makes a round for .22 and many other calibers, its got a blue plastic cap on the end like where the bullet should be. i believe it is #12 shot. the only problem is that they may not cycle through very well in a semi auto..i always shot em out of a bolt action
     
  19. derbycitycatman

    derbycitycatman Well-Known Member

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    Great now Im gonna have nightmares for a week after seeing that thing, thanks a lot. :embarassed: lol
     
  20. Fivebraids

    Fivebraids New Member

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    Sorry Brian...how do you think WE feel knowing these things are running around on our property??:0a5:

    - Marty -