Best Backbounce rod
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What is backbouncing? Is it the same as drift fishing?
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More like bumping or walking, different regions seem to call the tactics by different names.
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This is my definition Matt.
It is, while controlling your drift, letting the current take you bait down stream as you use your rod and let out line to keep it "bouncing" along the bottom. This method is great for heavy current. On the Ohio, the current is generally too slow. You can do something similar by slowing the drift with a trolling motor as you lift and drop your bait along the bottom. More like walking the bait. In either case, it is essential that you keep the line tight so you can feel the sinker when it taps the bottom.
It is, while controlling your drift, letting the current take you bait down stream as you use your rod and let out line to keep it "bouncing" along the bottom. This method is great for heavy current. On the Ohio, the current is generally too slow. You can do something similar by slowing the drift with a trolling motor as you lift and drop your bait along the bottom. More like walking the bait. In either case, it is essential that you keep the line tight so you can feel the sinker when it taps the bottom.
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There are many good rods out there, I have 3 right now ( had 4 but sold the Bass Pro Musky rod). Warrior Cat makes a mighty fine rod (I have 1) as do custom builders ( I have 2 which the site does not allow to be named). I use them on the Mississippi and the Missouri.
I would look for a well made graphite or carbon rod rated XHeavy Fast action. These will be light weight - which is great on your wrist when bumping all day - and offer great sensitivity to feel the bottom. Reel choice on these rivers is another thing to look at . Personally I have 2 of the Okuma Komodos and love em. But there are again, good reels out there.
I would look for a well made graphite or carbon rod rated XHeavy Fast action. These will be light weight - which is great on your wrist when bumping all day - and offer great sensitivity to feel the bottom. Reel choice on these rivers is another thing to look at . Personally I have 2 of the Okuma Komodos and love em. But there are again, good reels out there.
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I agree. Why can you advertise a commercial builder and not the little guy. It's not fair!
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I am not sure you can not comment on a rod builders product. If you want to know for sure, ask Jim or just post the question on the Administrator’s thread. They are good people and will answer your questions.
Being a past Admin, I know the site did not want manufacturers advertising for free on the site that makes money by selling advertising.
When you read that something is forbidden, especially when the post is old, take it with a grain of salt. Look thru the site rules and if still unsure, ask Admin.
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I went out with a guide a couple of years ago on the Miss. in front of the Arch. We did back bouncing. Four people and 14 channel cats all around 20 lbs. I was hooked [ not literally ]
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I use the rippin lipps Supercat in MH for back bouncing, light weight but the tip could be a little stiffer.
My TWC's in MH are to stiff, I think, maybe I will try one this year
just using the Chaos 50 reel on it. with 65lb J-braid
buddy has the okuuma line counter reels on his rods, not sure what his bouncing rods are , I like the line counters
My TWC's in MH are to stiff, I think, maybe I will try one this year
just using the Chaos 50 reel on it. with 65lb J-braid
buddy has the okuuma line counter reels on his rods, not sure what his bouncing rods are , I like the line counters
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Didn't they quit making rippin lipps?
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nope, Rippin Lipps is a company that has more then just rods
I have the Red Legacy for bouncing and the HD is great for everything else stiffer then the legacy MH and not as stiff as a TWC MH
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I googled rippin lipps and it came up that they are out of business, so I i bought an ungly stick tiger H.
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rippin lips is alive and well. A new rod that I think would be good is the new Ugly Stik Carbon Catfish. I have not used it for bouncing and don't bounce often either but it has that feel to me.
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I have two bumping rods. The Rippin Lipps bumping rod, The Stalker is a good rod at 7’3” in length. I have the Abu Garcia Revo Toro on it
And then I have an Abu Garcia, Vendetta that is 7’6” in length. It is heavy power, fast action. I have the Fathom on it.
I have the two because I got great prices on the reels and wanted to try both a right and left handed version.
I have found that both the right and left hand reels work equally well. It all depends on what you get used to. A short time with either reel and it will feel natural.
Now the Stalker rod is $129 from Rippin Lips and the Heavy fast action Vendetta is around $90 at Cabellas.
Although these two rods are actually only 2 or 3 inches different in length, because of reel placement the handle is quite different. When back bouncing you will end up placing the rod handle under your forearm to get some leverage. You will spend the day with it there, lifting and dropping the rod tip to walk the bait in the current. See the photos below.
When bouncing, feel is what it is all about. That is why a stiff carbon fiber rod is a good choice. That is not to say that a fiberglass rod won’t work but you lose a slight bit of sensitivity with fiberglass. Braid gives you better feel also. I make my own sinkers but most seem to like the cannonball (round) sinker. It supposedly gives the best feel when it hits bottom.
You want the boat drifting backward at about half the speed of the current. Since most bites occurs when the bait is falling, you should let line out when you are lifting the rod. If you let it out when the bait is falling, you lose the feel you need.
A bite can be anywhere from a tap or bump to a hard hit. There is nothing quite like getting a hard hit while you are holding the rod.
If while back bouncing, you lose the feel of the sinker hitting bottom, reel line in until you get the feel back. If you lose the feel, the line can get a bow in it cause by the current and be dragging your rig along the bottom. Best way in the world to get snagged.
good luck
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And then I have an Abu Garcia, Vendetta that is 7’6” in length. It is heavy power, fast action. I have the Fathom on it.
I have the two because I got great prices on the reels and wanted to try both a right and left handed version.
I have found that both the right and left hand reels work equally well. It all depends on what you get used to. A short time with either reel and it will feel natural.
Now the Stalker rod is $129 from Rippin Lips and the Heavy fast action Vendetta is around $90 at Cabellas.
Although these two rods are actually only 2 or 3 inches different in length, because of reel placement the handle is quite different. When back bouncing you will end up placing the rod handle under your forearm to get some leverage. You will spend the day with it there, lifting and dropping the rod tip to walk the bait in the current. See the photos below.
When bouncing, feel is what it is all about. That is why a stiff carbon fiber rod is a good choice. That is not to say that a fiberglass rod won’t work but you lose a slight bit of sensitivity with fiberglass. Braid gives you better feel also. I make my own sinkers but most seem to like the cannonball (round) sinker. It supposedly gives the best feel when it hits bottom.
You want the boat drifting backward at about half the speed of the current. Since most bites occurs when the bait is falling, you should let line out when you are lifting the rod. If you let it out when the bait is falling, you lose the feel you need.
A bite can be anywhere from a tap or bump to a hard hit. There is nothing quite like getting a hard hit while you are holding the rod.
If while back bouncing, you lose the feel of the sinker hitting bottom, reel line in until you get the feel back. If you lose the feel, the line can get a bow in it cause by the current and be dragging your rig along the bottom. Best way in the world to get snagged.
good luck
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Sorry I missed it. I was going to buy but all I could find online was they were no longer made since 2018, Damn internet. Well maybe my next rod.
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It was on the news yesterday and is online, that the EPA has said you should not eat ANY fish from any rivers or lakes in the US. PFAS contamination in just one fish is the same as drinking contaminated water for a month. PFAS never break down.
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