I notice fishing on the bank there are alot of people that fish with at least 12' rods. I know in Virginia they fish saltwater and need to cast out past the breakers ect... but they also fish the bank of the James the same way. They will always say "you need to get it in the channel" I can't cast near as far as they can maybe half the distance. I never see them catch a fish yet I don't either. So my question is what type of rods do people use on the bank fishing?