AZ to MO, need help if possible--PLEASE.

Discussion in 'MISSOURI LAKES / RESERVOIRS TALK' started by GETHOOKED, May 28, 2008.

  1. GETHOOKED

    GETHOOKED New Member

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    Hello fellow BOC catman. I live in AZ and fish here for hugh flats, and I have to be in springfield, mo for one week for a wedding. I want to take my dad's bass boat, and hopefully him to try to take on some of your HUGe blue cats. I have never fished for blue's, and my dad has never catfished. He is one of those die hard bass men! :0a28: well, while I am in town I would like to turn him on to the sport of catfishing, but am VERY ignorant on the blue cat species, and how and where to fish for them in the state of missouri, and specifically truman lake. I have heard and read that warsaw is a good starting point, but it seems that truman is a very big, and hard to navigate lake. If I could pry some much needed info off any of you MO catman I would greatly appreciate it. It is a one week trip, but probably only get out once or twice depending on what the warden says at the hotel!!!!:wink: Thank you inadvance, and if anyone ever comes to my neck of the woods, I sure could gets you on some monster flatheads in return!!!:eek:oooh:
     
  2. Kutter

    Kutter New Member

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    Sorry, wish I could help, but I'm on the east side of the state where the real catfish are located. LOL
    Shame on me, shame, shame, shame.
     

  3. brad kilpatrick

    brad kilpatrick New Member

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    don't listen to Kutter, He has no idea what He's talkin about......LOL:wink:

    Truman is a fine fishery for blue cats. If I were you I would contact Steve Brown from Catfish Safari and see if He has an open date, That you and Your Dad could fill. Yes its gonna cost more then taking the bass boat out and "doing it Yourself" but Steve is easily the most knowledgeable Catman on Truman Lake and His trips are worth every penny. Ive been out with Steve on several occasions nad every trip has been a memorable one. If anyone can help you convert your Bait....ummm errr Bass fishin father to a catman Steve's the man for the job

    You can find contact info For Steve Here
    http://catfishsafari.com/Home_Page.php
     
  4. Kutter

    Kutter New Member

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    Dang, how on earth did a westie think about Steve before an eastie did?

    He is absolutely right! I have never heard a single negative comment on him and dozens of very highly regarded comments. I don't know the man personally, but I do several folks who have tried him out and they all praise him and say he's worth every cent.
     
  5. GETHOOKED

    GETHOOKED New Member

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    I would REALLY like to be the one that teaches my dad. Kind of like a reverse life lesson. He has taught me so much, and I would like to show up and "ACT" like I know what I am doing. I think this may even impress him--ya know? Nothing against your guides there, I am sure they have one wonderful buisness and service. I just want to play it forward to my father, while I can. I don't get back to MO very often at all, so our time together fishing is very limited. SO every second together learning or sharing is a life memory.
     
  6. farmer

    farmer Member

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    When will ya be here? I live 20 minutes from Springfield so I can get ya a fishing report when your here.
     
  7. GETHOOKED

    GETHOOKED New Member

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    June 20-28th, thanks for the help.
     
  8. Mo.Hick

    Mo.Hick Active Member

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    Mathew I cant help much with truman but I hope your trip to Mo will be a good one and that you and your dad catch some good blues. We look forward to a fishing report when you get done on the lake.

    Tom
     
  9. adam1886

    adam1886 New Member

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    i cant help you a whole lot but since i've only fished truman a couple times for cats but bring a throw net and catch some shad.that would probably be your best choice for bait. look at a few of the past post about truman and you will find some really good info from some far more knowledgable people than me:smile2:. good luck and hope you and your dad get into some good ones! keep us posted on how it went
     
  10. crazy

    crazy New Member

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    Good luck on the fishing. Fishing in another state when you don't know what your doing can be a little tough. Some things are money well spent...
     
  11. Catfish Pursuit

    Catfish Pursuit New Member

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    I have to agree with everyone else here, might be worth investing the money with Steve Brown since the cats will be right in the middle of their nesting when you get here. Some will be nesting, some won't. Just my opinion but I think fishing for blues has slowed down alot since spring unfortunately which may make it tough to find active fish. If you decide to make the trip on your own, put in at Drake Harbor below Truman Dam in Warsaw and then go find fresh shad. Hopefully you have a good depth finder and can locate the deeper holes and current breaks that usually hold fish. You'll need everything from 2-6 ounce weights depending on how much current there is and where you decide to fish. I use 30 pound big game, 8/0 Gamakatsu Octopus circle hooks, and 7 foot medium heavy rods with Okuma baitcasters. Best of luck! Chris
     
  12. beeheck

    beeheck New Member

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    Chris, when you talk about deeper water that holds fish how deep are you talking? At what point does the thermocline and lack of oxygen come into play? What water is too deep to hold fish? I guess a little more specific information would make it easier (at least for me) to understand. If I find 30 feet of water and think that's deep water when you mean I should be looking for 60 feet of water it makes it easier to pin point that deeper water your talking about. Not knocking your post it's one of the more helpful but I know I'm one of the more dense people on this site and I like things spelled out. I just don't think a person can put too much specific information into a post but posters can sure put enough generalizations in a post and that just confuses people like me. dahhh...... I'm on the 5mm of LOZ and being from Iowa where 15 feet is deep water when I find 60 feet of water I go into mental overload and just can't cypher how to fish that deep of water. I sit in my boat looking at my fish finder with a stupid look on my face and drool running down my chin with a repeated saying going through my brain again and again... deep water does not compute, deep water does not compute, deep water does not compute. Sure wish one of you better deep water fisherman, and I put you in that group, would put on a little seminar on how to really fish a deep water reservoir like LOZ here in post form.
     
  13. catfishsafari

    catfishsafari New Member

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    Yea Chris please expand on the deep water pattern and thermocline. And how do you know if there is a thermocline. Can you see it on your graph? Is it a time of year or what?.

    Please reply asap.

    Hey I found a picture of you holding one of those fish you caught around the thermocline

    Thanks Steve...
     

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  14. LONE STAR

    LONE STAR New Member

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    Well "GETHOOKED", as the other brother I would like to wish you good luck as well on your trip. I'm brand new to the club and had a question for you since you mentioned your from AZ. Im in the military and have orders to Yuma this August. I figured since thats your stomping grounds maybe I could get a leg up on the fishing wheres and hows before I get there.:cool2: respectfully asking
     
  15. beeheck

    beeheck New Member

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    There 'ya go, I guess you now know what you get for your money if you hire this guy for a guide, someone who will belittle you to show others he knows something you don't. Sorry, I took up Steve's valuable post space it won't happen again. I thought I was on a site that encouraged people to ask questions when they don't know but I see that it's more for a self-proclaimed know it all to strut his stuff. Guess I'm not easily impressed with talk and I'm sure not impressed by someone catching fish that fishes all day most every day. Even a blind hog finds an acorn every once in a while. I'm more impressed with the guy that works a full time job, fishes weekends when he can and manages to catch some big cats. Sorry Steve, your still not in that group of posters that I would consider to be knowledgeable about deep water fishing as I've never read anything that you have posted that made me think you know what your talking about. Matter of fact, I don't think I've ever read anything where you contributed information, other than to offer your guide service. Sorry.
     
  16. michiganwhitetailRLM

    michiganwhitetailRLM New Member

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    best of luck fishing with your dad. GOD bless and have a great time!
     
  17. catfishsafari

    catfishsafari New Member

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    Wow Bill your kinda hard on a guy who's just trying to have a little fun with a good friend. Chris and I have known each other for years. I was just kidding.
    Sorry I don't post on here more and give out free info.

    I do a fishing report on my guide thread. It's FREE to read it. I tell people how and where to get bait, how deep to fish, if they should fish LOZ or Truman.

    I was just poking fun at a friend please don't take it wrong.
     
  18. RIVER-RAT

    RIVER-RAT New Member

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    Easy there Bill, Steve is the LAST person I know that would Belittle someone. He is a very nice guy and will go out of his way to help a guy out.

    Matt, whatever you decide to do, I hope your trip with your old man is a prosperous one! I have never fished that area, but I know here lately the Warsaw area and the dam tail waters have been on fire. That's where I would go if I were you! Good Luck Bro!
     
  19. stlcatman

    stlcatman New Member

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    Bill you don't know Steve but I can tell you he was joking with a friend and you definatley took it the wrong way. Man that was just uncalled for. Steve is the kind of guy who will help you out with information at the drop of a hat. He knows more about those two lakes than any man out there. I guess he may not impress you because he fishes for a living but anyone who guides around 200 trips a year and has had 2 fishless trips in 4 (or was it 10) years.........well that impresses me that the man knows how to fish.

    If I were coming in town and wanted to show my dad how to catch cats at that time of year I would definately call Steve Brown. Even if you don't want to take advantage of his guide service he has a great place to stay with a dock and he will always help you in finding bait and tips on the fishing. You won't find a better place to stay with a great breakfast and in walking distance of your boat.
     
  20. GETHOOKED

    GETHOOKED New Member

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    look guys this seems to be getting out of hand. I know hiring a guide (any guide good, bad or in different) would offer a easier and quick way to get me and my father on fish. But I was raised by this man to do it yourself and make the most of what you can do with what you have. I am tring to come to a state I don't know and just put some fish in the boat. I am not tring to spend $100 - $500 dollars just to put some fillets in the freezer. If any of you were taught and have ever fished with your father later in life when you were now a father, and decided to now go and return the favor to the one man who took time out of his life to put down his poles and just let you fish and learn and not care about catching just being with your son. I am that man now who wants to take his father out and just be me and him and the lake. I was just asking for ADVICE on patterns or even a spot or two a out of towner could use for a day or so. I am not going to rape your spots or even disclose them to anyone but a bass man, who would --if I'm not there--EVER go back. I understand if you guys want to bicker back and forth, but understand my mission, --it is not just to catch fish, but to pass forward out sport of fishing from father to son, back to son to father.---UNDERSTAND?:confused2: