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Discussion in 'Carp Fishing' started by catfishing is fun, Jan 29, 2009.
I thought i heard somewhere that they are, but i'm not for sure
Carp are not line shy any more than any other fish until they have been caught and released a bunch of times. They seem to be able associate things with other things and after being caught repeatedly they become very wary of line, weights, bait flavors etc. that they associate with being caught...W
I never knew that thanks for the info:wink:
Thanks, i never would have thought carp were this smart
Don't think so. As if you can catch them on a white #21 line on a trot line. Don't think mono is going to bother them.
But like Winston. They may after being caught a few times remember.
Some people think Bass are like that. But I have caught bass 2 hours after they were put back into the water at a Tournament. Shoot the guy even had a picture of the fish. And a few of them were there when I caught it and we weighted it in 2 hours 5 minutes of them weighing it in. LOL
If I am fishing on topwater floating bread then I am 100% convinced that the smaller the line diameter the more takes, or attempted takes I get. With thicker line the fish nudge it and swim away. I can get hookups on bigger line but my quality fish come on the smaller diameter, like braid or small mono. This does not mean that carp will not bite thick nylon, but it does mean that a more delicate presentation will increase bites and hookups. I also use thinner leader lines because the smaller my leader diameter the better my fish and catch ratio has been.
i use 20 lb bass line and 30lb big game caught big carp one both over 20 on liver in the great miami and city ponds they were not that picky rick
Thanks for the info
Rod and Reel I use 12# Test but on Trot Lines use much Bigger.
Field and Stream or one of those magazines did a fish study years ago and the lowly carp has the best memory and smarts, after catching the carp on corn they would not eat corn for a year, they had all the fish we catch and how long it took for them to bite the same bait again, it was very interesting but the carp was the smartest
They can be, but if you fish for them by marinas where they usually get fed, it really doesn't matter.
When you are fishin for carp you must remember that they ARE line shy, sure there are instances that something else gets in the way but just fishin for them you will not catch any with heavy line unless you are SNAGGIN !!!
Any fish that is used to getting fed in those situations would be incredibly easy to catch.
They have been conditioned to feed without fear of being caught.
I recall reading some In Fisherman articles that discussed fish intelligence.
The top three most intelligent fish based on research are buffalo, carp, then catfish.
All three of these fish species are extremely intelligent. I didn't see the F&S article, but I believe it, it is possible that buffalo was not tested in their study.
Based on the studies In-fisherman cited, fish like trout and bass were not even in the top 5.
They must never have tested quilback. These have got to be the most line shy and bait shy roughfish in a river or stream.
Fluorocarbon line helps a lot as it basically disappears in water
i use 4'-0" plus fluoro leaders on braided line for carping......it works very well.
They are clever, but they are not bulletproof.... a good bait on a fluoro line/leader is a sure fire way to catch a big one
I don't give them a chance to become line-shy. If I catch a carp while fishing for channel cats, I keep them, if they are less than 24 inches. Carp can be pretty tasty, if caught in clean water, if you avoid the red meat, and if you know how to process the white meat to take care of the little y-bones.
Heck even Trout I use 6# Test Line.