I have used this rig for years to catch tons of carp big and small. It is effective in presenting the bait on the level they swim and over cover like grass. I also freeline the bread rigged the same way as in the diagram, just minus sinker and scuh. I am posting a pic of the rig that I drew on paintshop, so it si crappy, but it may convey the point better than I can explain it. If anyone else uses this please tell me how you have done This has outproduced anything I have used, even when fishing is slow. It will be blurry do to resizing, but you get the point. When baited the bread flats in the same position as the hook is shown, with the eye down, point up. Also, if you use splitshot sinkers it will not stay on bottom. This presentation works great on topwater, and for some reason unknown to me the carp always hit the soft part and get the hook, when they turn you see your line moving away, ste the hook and fish on.